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To: BuckeyeTexan

Thanks Buck, but I have made my mistakes too, and I owned up to em too. But that being said, I still think O’bummer was born in Hawaii..... What I think he is hiding is his adoption records because it would have recorded a change of name. He would have needed that amended file to get his documents issued in Indonesia in order to go to school there. I believe he got a foreign passport based on that, and in doing so gave evidence of voluntarily giving up US Citizenship. It has been posted at Berg’s site, that on a FOIA request, the State Department has no records of Obama applying for a US Passport. He GOT a special diplomatic one when he became a Senator. HOW DID HE TRAVEL TO PAKISTAN WITH OUT A PASSPORT? How did college student Barack Obama get into and STAY in Pakistan with out ID?? To believe he somehow did is just beyond anything I can believe. He had ID, questions is, of which Nation? Indonesia? Britain?

I also believe that he went back to Oahu in 06 to amend those documents just before beginning to run for POTUS, in order to change his name back officially, and make sure that his Nationality was that of the USA, an adoption can be invalidated and records changed if the person requesting them has reason to do so. Reversing an Adoption would qualify. Maybe he dropped a threat or two, or placed a bribe, who knows, after all we are talking about Hawaii and Chicago, both places where that sort of thing is not uncommon.

The fact that I am now thinking that the document on FactCheck is a forgery is this, 1) Obama could then point to a document that looked official, and 2)he could trap the State of Hawaii into NOT stating anything about it because he will not give his permission to allow them to do so, a permission they NEED because his REAL COLB had not been released.

If that COLB were real, by Hawaiian law, state Statute, they could confirm that it is because teh information was released by the person it pertains to. They have not thus far said a word about it. They could say that the information matches whats on record... they haven’t. They could confirm the Certification number... nope not done that. Instead they say that they are bound by the law and can’t discuss it.

Ok so following that logic, they can’t discuss it because the information in Obama’s real file has in no way been made public, because the FactCheck Document is a forgery.

So he gets his cake and gets to eat it too. Hawaii knows that it was a forgery, but can’t say so with out releasing his real information which he won’t let them do. So he gets to look legit, protects his real records, and gets the added bonus of getting to mock birthers.

A true masterpiece of political chess.


309 posted on 02/23/2010 5:30:17 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Danae

Sorry, I have been away. Been on a usury thread. But if your scenario is correct, how do you explain the birth announcements that gave his name as BHO? Remember, those were contemporaneous 1961 records.

parsy,who may have missed something


311 posted on 02/23/2010 5:34:04 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Danae

Since Obama married Michelle in 1992 in Chicago prior to 2006 shouldn’t he have had to show his birth certificate then at the courthouse to file for a marriage license? Has anyone ever looked up the marriage records for them in chicago instead of Hawaii that might show a copy of his BC?


340 posted on 02/23/2010 8:12:14 PM PST by U.S. Army Retired
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To: Danae
Obama is the Chicago version of trailer trash. A complete fraud.
360 posted on 02/23/2010 8:53:22 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: Danae
has any one tried to look for death notices/certificates for the same date/place as Obo’s? if he's using another baby's ##’s on the colb... maybe look for that..I don't know ....just a thought
376 posted on 02/23/2010 9:34:33 PM PST by flowergirl
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