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To: EnderWiggins; butterdezillion
LOL

You aren't normally this dense.

Obama born Aug 4th. FILED by Registrar (Given file number) Aug 8 Document Certificate number 151 1961 010641

Nordyke Twins Born Aug 5. FILED by Registrar (Given file number) Aug 11 Document Certificate Numbers 151 61 10637, 151 61 10638

This means that the number on the COLB posted at Fact Check has a certificate number several digits BEFORE Birth Documents filed and given numbers 3 days later.

That is not possible with any simple explanation.

What Okubo revealed here is that there is no general pile that is done every so oftenand the numbers just got shuffled around, there is no set of pre-numbered documents that maybe one hospital had a set and another hospital had another set of numbers.

No, the numbers were used in order and all done in the Honolulu office as the Dr. signed certificates in the case of Babies born on Oahu (where Honolulu is), and in the case of the outer islands and Military bases, the Local Registrar Received (and dated as being received) but not yet filed certificates would get their "Filed" Numbers and be entered into the record permanently with a date entered into the box 11c DATE ACCEPTED BY THE STATE.

This begs the question, how did Obama get a number that should have gone already to another baby? His paperwork was filed 3 days before the Nordyke's, meaning he should have a number LOWER than theirs by the number of babies that got FILED between Aug 8th and Aug 11th. Not Born.... but FILED, because people had 7 days to get that paperwork into the state, a child could have been BORN on the 7th and not had to have documents filed until the 14th, or they might have been filed on the 10, there is a lot of different possible numbers that could get generated out of that speculation. Only the DOH could answer that question with Statistics, and likely an FOIA request could be gotten for just that... maybe that should get done...

So the question you SHOULD be asking is this...

How many babies got paperwork Filed in Hawaii between the 8th and the 11th?butterdezillion That will be the ball park number that Obama should have EARLIER than the Nordyke Babies. Are you following yet? Obama should have had a LOWER certificate number, yet it is higher by 3-4..... Normally indicating a date FILED by the Registrar AFTER the Filing of the Nordyke Twins. The dates and the order of the Certificate numbers do not add up the way they should.

Note also, Hawaii has NEVER certified that what is on the internet is LEGITIMATE, either in its form, the data it contains, or the Certification number. Instead they say they have seen the Documents, which is NOT at all the same thing.

If this line of reasoning is correct, then 1) The FactCheck document is a forgery that has been pawned off by Obama as being real, a FRAUD upon this Nation as it is the ONLY evidence he has offered regarding his ELIGIBLITY to run for or be POTUS.

and 2) It means that the State of Hawaii is an ACCOMPLICE to this crime. If the FactCheck COLB is real, then Hawaii can LEGALLY say so. There is no right to privacy regarding documents already released publicly by the person in question, by Hawaii law and state statute! If it is NOT a legitimate Document, then Hawaii can't release any information regarding Obama's birth Documents with out his say so, and of course he has not given that say so.

So now you see, I hope, that Hawaii is between a rock and a hard place. They cannot certify what has been made public is real because what is public those pictures on Fightthesmears.com and Factcheck.org is a forgery. They can't even say that it is a fraud with out releasing information that by LAW they cannot release because the person in question refuses to allow them do so.

Read this post three times before you respond. Obama is counting on sheer confusion to cover his ass. Think it through. The logic is not that hard to follow.
285 posted on 02/23/2010 4:19:54 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Danae
"You aren't normally this dense."

Density has nothing to do with it. I just actually read what the documents say, rather than what i wish they said. For example:

Obama born Aug 4th. FILED by Registrar (Given file number) Aug 8 Document Certificate number 151 1961 010641

You actually have no idea when the file number was given. But you get even more imaginative with the Nordyke Twins:

"Nordyke Twins Born Aug 5. FILED by Registrar (Given file number) Aug 11 Document Certificate Numbers 151 61 10637, 151 61 10638"

Not only do you not know when the file number was givene, the certificate says "Filed by Registrar" exactly nowhere.

"This means that the number on the COLB posted at Fact Check has a certificate number several digits BEFORE Birth Documents filed and given numbers 3 days later."

You're only half right. The COLB has a number several digits AFTER (not before) those for kids born a day later. But you have no idea where or when or how they were given the numbers.


297 posted on 02/23/2010 4:55:59 PM PST by EnderWiggins
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