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To: patlin

Obviously, the entire point of the issue has passed you by. Eleanor Nordyke describes spending time with Madelyn on a three week cruise in 2002, when, Eleanor claims, Madelyn told her that her grandson was a ‘social worker’ - he wasn’t, he was a SENATOR!
And Madelyn, in 2002, would have been dependant on her walking aid to get around. Do you believe SHE would have been able to get around an ocean liner for three weeks, on her own, dependant on that walking aid, which could be used to move her physically, sitting down...? And WHO was going to help her around the ship in that condition?
I don’t give a STUFF about your elderly church goers, or your mother enjoying a cruise (accompanied by a relative) -

THE POINT IS THAT THE NORDYKE WOMAN’S STORY DOESN’T STAND THE SMELL TEST!


1,817 posted on 02/27/2010 3:44:31 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks
THE POINT IS THAT THE NORDYKE WOMAN’S STORY DOESN’T STAND THE SMELL TEST!

Exactly. But to say that the elderly that are dependent on walking aids are not able to travel is very naive. I have spent my entire life helping the elderly in the family & church and you'd be amazed at how much they can do if they are determined enough. I think it is wrong to put someone in the category of ‘invalid’ just because they need a bit of assistance from time to time and cruise workers are very diligent in helping the elderly when needed. They also have on board wheelchairs you know. And what's not to say she didn't take one of her own with?

I agree that Nordyke embellished the story, but let's not degrade our seniors in the process. That's all I'm saying.

1)The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed: 2)Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; 3)Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being examples to the flock. 4)And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. 5)Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. 6)Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: 7)Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. 1 Peter 5: 1-7

1,823 posted on 02/27/2010 4:05:08 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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