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To: BP2

Just fess up. I’ll go easy on you. You really don’t have a clue about Wong, do you? And you won’t until you read it.

parsy, who just violated one of Blackstone’s Laws, but I ain’t saying which one


1,368 posted on 02/26/2010 12:14:45 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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Pansy, I've read the Wong Kim Ark Opinion — as well as Justice Fuller's Dissenting Opinion — numerous times, especially in dealing with After-Birthers like yourself. When I point out exact references to you, and you stutter-step and say the Wong is not the correct reference for you to use, it's obvious that your understanding of it extends no further than your hand-fed bullet points.

Wong Kim Ark's Dissenting Opinion is obviously the Dissenting Opinion, but it's also VERY instructive of how Justice Roberts will proceed when this issue is accepted at the SCOTUS. The answer lies in looking at the Framers' intent.

To that end — as I've instructed you on over and over again — EVEN Justice Gray CLEARLY re-iterated the MINOR v. HAPPERSETT majority Opinion (as reaffirmed by your Judge Dreyer):

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar”

THAT means that Justice Gray acknowledged, as Justice Roberts has on other Constitutional questionsand will affirm on Natural Born Citizen that the answer lies in looking at “Original Intent”, NOT 20th Century Case Law from Liberal judges.

ORIGINAL INTENT certainly doesn't involve looking at a 1896 version of “Digest of the Law of England with Reference to the Conflict of Laws” as your APPEALS OF INDIANA opinion from Judge Dreyer does. How laughable!

I'm not sure why this is so hard for you to understand ...

... well, actually I have a pretty good idea of why it is.



1,411 posted on 02/26/2010 1:35:09 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: parsifal

parsifal,

I think its unwise for non lawyers like myself to engage in debate with trained lawyers over the meening of very long legal texts.

I have a question for you that is a tangent to your reply to the other poster, but still on topic for the thread as a whole. Its not about words at all.

Below is a link to two images side by side, this was posted earlier in the thread. Both are claimed to be Hawaii DOH COLB seal impressions for the same year:-

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll1/BecJul/obamaseal.jpg

Please disregard the dogmatic headings, and concentrate on the images themselves.

In one Seal the two snakes spiralling up the staff are represented with a near solid single line, in the other the snakes are represented by a hollow shape enclosed by two black lines to form the bodies of the snakes as they spiral up the staff.

If one of the images is correct for a Hawaii COLB of the claimed year [both claim the same year], then the credibility of the other will be damaged, do you agree?


1,471 posted on 02/26/2010 3:00:19 PM PST by Exmil_UK
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