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To: BuckeyeTexan

Actually, the more I read Wong, the Wong court did everything but come right out and say it directly. The reason is, they were dealing with non-naturalized citizenship and not the presidential question.

But throughout the case they pretty much indicate its the same thing. Only two kinds of citizens, naturalized citizens and citizens. Throughout the case they cite English common law and its holdings that place of birth makes one a “natural born subject” and that a “natural born citizen” is the same thing.

I have noticed the domicile argument start to come up, but Wong makes its clear that is a non-starter. If the baby is born here, and the parents aren’t one of several exemptions, the baby is a citizen. Plus, a 2009 Indiana case, the Court used Wong (for some reason the Plaintiffs chose not to mention Wong....hmmmm....imagine that)and found Obama a natural born citizen via Wong.

Here’s the 2009 Indiana case:

http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf

Pages 13-18.

If you need the language on the domicile stuff or Wong link, let me know.

parsy, the tireless Warrior for Truth


1,356 posted on 02/26/2010 11:37:18 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal

Yes, I agree that there are only two classes of citizens: native and naturalized. If one is not naturalized, then one had to be native.

However the State Department in their Foreign Affairs manual says that one who is a natural born citizen by statute does not mean one is such for Constitutional purposes.

That leaves me with the impression that our own government is unclear whether or not all native citizens are eligible for the presidency. Thus my position that we need a SCOTUS ruling to settle the matter once and for all.


1,361 posted on 02/26/2010 11:56:44 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: parsifal; BuckeyeTexan; mlo; curiosity; trumandogz; EnderWiggins; Las Vegas Ron; mojitojoe; ...

> Actually, the more I read Wong

You mean, the first time, right?

It didn't take long for Pansy to start dancing the “After-Birther two-step” when schooled that WONG KIM ARK v US is actually a very bad case to reference in defending your weak stance on Obama's status as a British Subject.

Take solace in knowing that you're not the
first "After-Birther" to be bitch-slapped here,
and you won't be the last.

wanda
Parsifal: Apes don’t read Kim Wong Ark.
BP2: Yes they do, Parsi. They just don’t understand it.


1,363 posted on 02/26/2010 12:05:29 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: parsifal; All

To quote you, verbatim:

"If the baby is born here, and the parents aren’t one of several exemptions, the baby is a citizen."

Once again:

Was Obama SR a citizen — "parents" is still two or more, right?

Regardless, in your own words, "... the baby is a citizen." Not a Natural-born citizen.

YOU are your own worst enemy, Parsley.

1,367 posted on 02/26/2010 12:13:52 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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