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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

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To: patlin

I give you points for staying busy. May I tender a suggestion, Oh Queen Bee? It appears that you are going to be spending much time in the future running around in circles. Perhaps, you could do the running inside a metal circle, attach an alternator, and sell the excess energy back to the power company.

This way, all this self-inflicted torture would save enough on the utilities, to perhaps take a cruise when some court affirms Wong and you need a little off time to experience catharsis.

parsy, the smart-*ssed Drone...bzzzz....bzzz


1,521 posted on 02/26/2010 3:50:35 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: BP2

Dang! What a surprise! I wonder why that is?

parsy, who is feigning mock surprise


1,522 posted on 02/26/2010 3:51:33 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: edge919

...that’s an image of the Maya marriage some months after ‘the cruise’ - during which Madelyn supposedly described her grandson as a ‘social worker’ when he would have been a Senator.


1,523 posted on 02/26/2010 3:51:44 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: little jeremiah

The ‘oriental people’ are the parents of Maya’s husband,IIRC.


1,524 posted on 02/26/2010 3:54:20 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: edge919

I wasn’t hiding behind anyone. I didn’t introduce a phantom expert. I didn’t back out of any statement I made.

I was asked why not just produce the birth certificate. I said I had the same question myself and so asked a lawyer who told me that one has to provide a defense or be subject to a default judgment. I didn’t offer his opinion as expert testimony.

patlin implied that I had asked a liberal lawyer who would agree with me. I responded that the attorney was not liberal that he was a federal judge in Dallas who was very conservative.

patlin wanted a name, which I refused to provide as it would put that federal judge in the middle of the birther controversy and although I didn’t say it, it would also cause problems between my mother and her judge whom she has worked for for 30+ years.

That judge’s opinion is hardly expert testimony. It’s commone sense and can be demonstrated by the simple act of not responding to a speeding ticket.

Your accusation is unwarranted.


1,525 posted on 02/26/2010 3:57:01 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: parsifal; All

> Dang! What a surprise! I wonder why that is?

You tell me, Parsley.

After-Birthers continually come through INSISTING that Wong
was referring to Blackstone’s definition of “Natural Born Citizen.”

It’s good to see YOU AGREE that Judge Gray accepted Vattel
as the defining authority in regards to Original Intent.


1,526 posted on 02/26/2010 3:58:56 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: butterdezillion

If this was an accepted and regular weeklly practice, which it appears to have been, the newspaper would have a firm deadline for receipt of such a list that would be well in advance of the publication date. Maybe due on Thursday for Sunday publication. Do we know date of publication for the Obama announcement?

This kind of information, not time-sensitive, would have been typeset in advance (this was still during the days of linotype), when there was no deadline pressure. Unless there was some huge breaking story, those columns would be ready for printing before the daily news copy was sent to the backshop for setting.

Barring an exceptional event, the announcements would be printed in full, the entire list. And the editor in charge of that section of the paper would likely expect the list to be longer on the weeks when the outer islands reported.

Things like birth announcements (and weddings, and obits) sell papers. That’s why small local papers are doing better than the big newsy dailies in the internet era. Folks like to see their names in print, and those of their neighbors. This was not just a public service, but also a way to boost circulation.

Yes, I worked at a newspaper in linotype days, watched firsthand the switch to offset.

Pardon me now while I go feed the pet pterodactyl.


1,527 posted on 02/26/2010 4:07:26 PM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: Exmil_UK

Sorry, whats-his-diddle, reminded me abut the rest of your question.

Maybe. Maybe not. IMHO. First, there is doubt the images would even be introduced into evidence and accepted. Any hearing related to Obama being born in Hawaii, would probably be determined prior to a hearing. Obama would introduce a certified copy of the COLB, an affidavit or two, and a Motion for Summary Judgement. You probably get a slam dunk at this point and Orly Taitz goes and files a lawsuit against the judge and some stranger over at the coffee shop.

But assume it goes to trial. Certified COLB gets introduced by Hawaiian registrar. Now the Plaintiff has to have a reason to introduce and use the allegedly phony internet copy. I’m not sure what the reason would be. What is the basis for the Plaintiff to introduce the allegedly phony internet copy?

parsy, who is LOST and can’t figure out a good reason to introduce and enter the phony COLB internet copy and wishes he had help trying to answer this burning question (wink, wink)


1,528 posted on 02/26/2010 4:09:07 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thank you. Grandmother sure doesn’t look as though she would have enjoyed a cruise. The whole event sounded like a lie when I read it months ago.


1,529 posted on 02/26/2010 4:09:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; edge919
Post 1379: Well, I asked an attorney that same question.

Post 1408: Actually I consulted a federal judge in Dallas

And you wonder why people have a problem with your answer? Who'd you really ask? How do we know if you really did? See the problem?

1,530 posted on 02/26/2010 4:12:01 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: BP2

This is why re-reading is a good thing. I’ll give you a hint. You’re wrong on Blackstone and you’re wrong on “defining”. Do you want to re-read, or do you want me to give you one or both of the answer?

parsy, who notes you are making great progress and are asking questions , now!


1,531 posted on 02/26/2010 4:13:01 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Judges are attorneys. Some judges have an active law practice going on. They are not mutually exclusive.

parsy


1,532 posted on 02/26/2010 4:14:01 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: El Gato

True. But why open the door when it’s Orly Taitz on the other side with a silly lawsuit. Understand, the cases were dismissed on good and solid grounds.

BUT, if there actually was something wrong with Obama’s place of birth might be willing to “go there”. But no one is going to “go there” when you have a pack of raving lunatics with no legal case, two phony birth certificates, and lying affiants, and a nutbar attorney. It would be stupid.

parsy, who says most judges ain’t stupid


1,533 posted on 02/26/2010 4:17:48 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal

Excuse me but language matters in a debate. Not all attorneys are judges. He cast doubt on his response.


1,534 posted on 02/26/2010 4:19:45 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: parsifal

Btw, it was also anecdotal.


1,535 posted on 02/26/2010 4:20:32 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Kind of like Wiggy’s fellow “West Point grad” who talked to the DOH for gosh - 2 1/2 hours (when they’re soooo busy) but on a day they were closed...

Some things clearly do not add up, and they expect people to swallow this crap!


1,536 posted on 02/26/2010 4:21:14 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: DJ MacWoW

The judge’s name is irrelevant to the facts under discussion. The veracity of his statements can be proven without knowing who he is.

My refusal to reveal his name doesn’t disprove the claim I made. Find another red herring.


1,537 posted on 02/26/2010 4:21:31 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: little jeremiah

Yup!


1,538 posted on 02/26/2010 4:22:27 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I didn't ask you for a name. I said: And you wonder why people have a problem with your answer? Who'd you really ask? How do we know if you really did? See the problem?

I will now tell you that it was also anecdotal and unprovable.

1,539 posted on 02/26/2010 4:24:16 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: parsifal; All

You’re wrong on Blackstone and you’re wrong on “defining”. Do you want to re-read, or do you want me to give you one or both of the answer?

Not necessary. We will accept your continual stonewalling, re-assertions of falsehoods, misinterpretations and how many times you've been PWN3D in the last 48 hours as surrender.

We know you're too proud to admit it, but we accept your surrender nonetheless.


We will add your After-Birther
scalp to our collection


1,540 posted on 02/26/2010 4:27:08 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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