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Interesting point in your 7789--I assume what you are saying in response to my comments about the efficacy of a marriage under circumstances where it might be illegal as contracted or where it might not constitute a legal marriage at civil law in a particular jurisdiction is that Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann might have contracted a Shira Law marriage which might have some degree of legal protection under the agreement ceding Coast Province to Kenya.

Although I recognize it as speculative, it seems fairly likely to me that they were married in Kenya. His tribal area was on the other side of the country. So I doubt the agreement had much impact.

On the other hand, the issue does cause you to think about what kind of marriage they might have contracted (civil v. tribal v. islamic). I have thought it might be productive to look at the records in Kenya to see if there is in fact any indication of some legal ceremony there.

I haven't paid much attention to that because it seems pretty clear to me under US law that they would be held to be married for purposes of the citizenship law which is the primary substantive impact of the issue.

On the other hand, the issue does cause you to think about what kind of marriage they might have contracted (civil v. tribal v. islamic). I have thought it might be productive to look at the records in Kenya to see if there is in fact any indication of some legal ceremony there.

You are right that Orly should look at the records in Kenya, but Kenya is not the best place to look at the moment where Barry's cousin is in charge.

Indonesia is the best place to look. I mean, surely, they had to satisfy Indonesian authority that they were married and Barry was adopted to be able to live there legally and attend school.

Indeed, perhaps Stanley Ann and Barack had a Kenyan marriage cert and that is the missing page form the court filings on divorce. If they were married in Kenya, would that establish dual cit for Stanley Ann? How would that effect birth of the baby in Kenya, or in Hawaii, or in Canada? Would the grandmother have wanted the child to have AMerican citizenship so she registered him as HAwaiian born or born to an Hawaiian resident?

I would still like to see legal documents that show when Barry Soetoro had a court change his name to Barack Hussein Obama. I believe he's an illegal alien, legally/illegally.