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To: redkite

natural born means born on US soil. People who acquire citizenship by reason of birth circumstances are citizens eligible to run for President, even if they are not natural born on US Soil. To wit, John McCain. Therefore if Barry were born in Kenya of two US Citizens he would not be a natural born citizen but would be eligible for POTUS.

If he were born on US Soil of a US citizen then he is eligible to be a natural born citizen period. The nonsense about the mother needing to be in residence for so many years and 21 is ridiculous in the extreme. Children born on US soil of a natural born US citizen, regardless of the age of the mother are natural born citizens.


6,659 posted on 08/04/2009 9:49:17 PM PDT by FreeAlaska32
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To: FreeAlaska32

“Children born on US soil of a natural born US citizen, regardless of the age of the mother are natural born citizens.”

Yes, if the father is a Citizen at the time of the birth.


6,665 posted on 08/04/2009 10:01:52 PM PDT by Lower55
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To: FreeAlaska32

state department:

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/86757.pdf
7 FAM 1131.6-2 Eligibility for Presidency
(TL:CON-68; 04-01-1998)
a. It has never been determined definitively by a court whether a person
who acquired U.S. citizenship by birth abroad to U.S. citizens is a natural born
citizen within the meaning of Article II of the Constitution and,
therefore, eligible for the Presidency.
b. Section 1, Article II, of the Constitution states, in relevant part that “No
Person except a natural born Citizen...shall be eligible for the Office of
President;”
c. The Constitution does not define “natural born”. The “Act to establish an
Uniform Rule of Naturalization”, enacted March 26, 1790, (1 Stat.
103,104) provided that, “...the children of citizens of the United States,
that may be born ... out of the limits of the United States, shall be
considered as natural born citizens: Provided that the right of citizenship
shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in
the United States.”
U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7 - Consular Affairs
7 FAM 1130 Page 9 of 103
d. This statute is no longer operative, however, and its formula is not
included in modern nationality statutes. In any event, the fact that
someone is a natural born citizen pursuant to a statute does not
necessarily imply that he or she is such a citizen for Constitutional purposes


6,670 posted on 08/04/2009 10:04:27 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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