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To: rxsid

What I do not get is why this whole thread exists. Barry’s mother is a US citizen who satisfies:

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > §1401. part g.

Nationals and citizens of United States at birth
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person

Therefore whether or not Barry was born in Hawaii or Kenya doesn’t matter:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

ie You can argue whether or not Barry is a natural born citizen, but natural born citizens are not the only class of citizens eligible for POTUS.

Sure I would love to see Barry humiliated, but flat out denying reality is stupid.


6,376 posted on 08/04/2009 4:06:26 PM PDT by FreeAlaska32
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To: FreeAlaska32

I don’t know if I am even up for explaining it anymore.

No, you are incorrect. The law you posted is from 1986 to present.

Obama was born in 1961, therefore THIS law applies:
3. January 13, 1941 to December 23, 1952

If you were born between January 13, 1941 and December 23, 1952, you automatically acquired U.S. citizenship if both your parents were U.S. citizens and at least one had a prior residence in the United States. You didn’t have to do anything special to keep your U.S. citizenship.

If only one parent was a U.S. citizen, that parent must have lived in the United States for at least ten years prior to your birth, and at least five of those years must have been after your parent reached the age of 16. To keep your citizenship, you must have lived in the United States for at least two years between the ages of 14 and 28 (called a residence requirement). However, as a result of a U.S. Supreme Court decision, if you were born after October 9, 1952, your parent still had to fulfill the residence requirement in order to pass citizenship to you, but your own residence requirement for retaining U.S. citizenship were abolished. If your one U.S. citizen parent was your father and you were born outside of marriage, the same rules applied if your father legally legitimated you before your 21st birthday and you were unmarried at the time.


Stanley was only 18 and therefore not old enough to transfer citizenship.


6,415 posted on 08/04/2009 4:48:45 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: FreeAlaska32
"What I do not get is why this whole thread exists."

Two good reasons:

1. His father was a British citizen, thus obama cannot fulfill the requirement for a Natural Born citizen.

2. If he was born in Kenya as his relastives state, his mother was not old enough to convey citizenship to him as per the statute in effect at the time.

Also, no evidence of a hospital birth certificate has ever been found in Hawaii.

6,419 posted on 08/04/2009 4:54:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: FreeAlaska32
totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years:

That's from 8 USC 1401. If you look at the "notes" tab at the link above, you'll find:

Amendments

1994—Subsec. (h). Pub. L. 103–416 added subsec. (h).
1986—Subsec. (g). Pub. L. 99–653 substituted “five years, at least two” for “ten years, at least five”.

IOW, in August of 1961 the requirement read:

ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years:>

The change to the law was not retroactive. IOW, Stanley Ann was not eligible to pass on citizenship to Barry, IF he was not born in the US. (Assuming she was married to BHO Sr.).

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

ie You can argue whether or not Barry is a natural born citizen, but natural born citizens are not the only class of citizens eligible for POTUS.

Are you saying Barry was a Citizen at the time of the Adoption of the Constitution? That's the only other class of citizens that were eligible to the office of President.

The last President who was a Citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution died in 1850 while serving in his second year as President. Zachary Taylor was born in Virginia in 1784, about 4 years before the adoption of the Constitution. He was the 12th President under the Constitution. Some earlier Presidents had been born after the adoption and were natural born citizens. But since him there have been 31 Presidents, 32 if you count The Messaiah, 30 if you don't count him and Chester Arthur. It's quite likely that Chester Arthur was not natural born, but the facts that make that likely were not demonstrated until well after his death. He was born in the US but at the time his father was not a US Citizen, although he became one when Chester was about 14.

Barack H. Obama Sr was never a citizen of the US, nor even a permanent resident alien.

It's arguable that sine he was born in the United States, that Taylor was natural born, and thus fit into both categories. If so, the next previous President who was a citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution was William Henry Harrison. He was the 9th President under the Constitution, but unfortunately he died in office of pneumonia, only about a month after taking office.

6,615 posted on 08/04/2009 8:33:05 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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