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To: SvenMagnussen
“Maya and her mother returned to Honolulu in 1973 and, for three years, lived with Barack on Poki Street, just ‘ewa of Punahou School.

I posted that excerpt while I was laughing to myself, we've since discovered that Stanley Ann and Lolo filed a joint tax return for 1973, and that's the first we knew that Lolo was in Hawaii...as to when she returned from Indonesia with Maya, that would still be a mystery...because there's no way now I would take the word of Alice Dewey...

“My father did not live with us at that time,” Maya said. “They lived apart. They were still together and still wanted to make a go of the marriage.”

So I gather from that, Lolo wasn't living with his wife and daughter, but they did file a joint tax return...and between his 'mothers' arrival in 1973, and 1976 when she left, (as follows)who did the boy live with?

Dunham took young Maya back to Indonesia in 1976 to live with Soetoro’s mother, while Barack moved into his grandparents’ apartment on Beretania Street while he finished his high school years at Punahou.”

That quite possibly is true. How would we know who he lived with? And Whoops! What-ever happend to Lolo? They lost him somewhere in the story? Maybe he remained in Hawaii?

If Obama was a U.S. citizen in 1973, then he would have been eligible to be named as a dependent on Lolo and SAD Soetoro’s 1973 tax return.

I'm now far to confused to even begin to think about his possible citizenship, the year Stanley Ann Dunham and Maya returned to Hawaii is now more than one year removed from what was commonly understood, they didn't return on their own, they came with the 'stepfather' who didn't live with them, and zero didn't live with Madelyn and Stanley Armour until SAD retured to Indonesia in 1976, although neither parent showed him as a dependant on their (one year) joint tax return. I need a little while to get this sorted out in my head if you don't mind...

So much has changed since that article was written.

11,562 posted on 04/18/2013 4:58:29 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Come visit Tasmania!)
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To: Fred Nerks

“... we’ve since discovered that Stanley Ann and Lolo filed a joint tax return for 1973, and that’s the first we knew that Lolo was in Hawaii...as to when she returned from Indonesia with Maya, that would still be a mystery ...”

I recall from one of the FOIA documents Lolo had filed 1040NR (non-resident) return when he was living in Indonesia. It was incorrect because Lolo was actually a Permanent Resident Alien with the U.S. and he returned to Indonesia as part of his agreement with East-West Center. The East-West Center is funded by the U.S. Government to promote cultural exchange. Lolo, Stanley Ann, Obama and Maya were all grantees of the East-West Center.

To promote cultural exchange, a grantee must travel to their home country after living and studying/working in the U.S. to promote and share their experiences with others. In Obama’s case, it wasn’t safe for him to travel and live in Indonesia for two years in the early eighties. So, he was granted an exception. He traveled to Indonesia to update his passport and then went on to Pakistan.

But I digress, U.S. citizens and permanent resident aliens living abroad must file a U.S. tax return. Consequently, Lolo would have had to file a U.S. Tax return in 1973 even if he was living in Indonesia at the time.


11,565 posted on 04/18/2013 6:44:25 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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