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To: Seizethecarp
It appears based on your post that all of the eggs are in the basket of Judge Carter ordering discovery.

Would that be a correct assessment - that discovery is our last hope?

10,400 posted on 09/17/2009 12:27:48 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: newfreep
Yeah! Discovery puts an end to all this. No trial needed and he, Judge Carter, does not take the fall for being the judge that brought down Obama. All he does is order discovery. Those documents become public record! Game set match.
10,405 posted on 09/17/2009 1:23:01 PM PDT by GregNH ("Dc Rally from the Ground" by me http://gwgjlm.blogspot.com/2009/09/dc-rally-from-ground.html)
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To: newfreep

No there is always the option of street justice-civil disobedience like massive tax withholding until the issue is resolved. A real Tea Party. Take a lesson from past injustices in this Nation and others, the people still have the power. Use it or lose it.

If the issue is not resolved before the next Presidential election, I predict someone with one foreign parent and one USC parent with the person born in the US will run for President and be challenged on eligibility. The court system and USSC is only kicking the can down the road.

Remember in 2036 Obamas long form will be available to the public. Why not show it now before the Nation is destroyed?


10,411 posted on 09/17/2009 1:31:27 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: newfreep

Last hope? There’s always hope, and I don’t mean “hope/n/change” style.

0bama will be revealed for the lying, marxist, bisexual, fraudulent thug that is. Hopefully sooner rather than later.


10,418 posted on 09/17/2009 1:58:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: newfreep
On Oct 5, if the motion to dismiss is denied, some degree of discovery will be ordered on that date. Then it will depend on what that discovery turns up. Obama's HI vital records might be protected until and unless there is authentication of a Kenya BC.

Orly seems to expect that if discovery is ordered, she can then subpoena the holder of the 1964 Kenya certification as well as Lucas Smith, have them bring their documents to a deposition where they would be interrogated..er...deposed by both sides, and then an effort would need to be made to get Kenya to cooperate in a thorough examination of the documents. If Kenya refuses to cooperate, a public campaign to shame them into cooperation might be needed.

Also in discovery, each side would present the expert constitutional witnesses who will testify as to their theories regarding the meaning of “natural born citizen” in the Constitution and whether Obama qualifies.

It is possible that a quo warranto case could be mounted, like that advocated by Leo Donofrio, when a party specifically injured by Obama during his presidency, such as Chrysler dealers shut down, would have standing and a jury would decide whether Obama was a natural born citizen. In quo warranto, my understanding is that the burden of proof shifts to Obama to prove his eligibility.

10,434 posted on 09/17/2009 3:33:05 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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