[Seizethecarp]

In the Ex Parte Application for Order...

Filed & Entered: 09/10/2009 Ex Parte Application for Order re Discovery Matter
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19633565/03118746941

...the part of the order beginning with "except" looks to me to be an invitation for Orly to immediately petition the Court for discovery regarding the original best evidence HI BC vital records and the two complimentary Kenya BCs from 1961 and 1964. Orly would clearly have grounds to establish the validity of those documents to “counter the grounds set forth (by Obama’s team) in said motion to dismiss”:

“IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that all discovery herein, and proceedings related thereto, be stayed pending the resolution by this Court fo Defendants’ Motion to Dismiss, not set for hearing on October 5, 2009, except for any discovery as to which Plaintiffs can demonstrate, to the satisfaction of this Court, that they need to counter the grounds set forth in said Motion to Dismiss.”

So an order that starts out sounding like a stay of all discovery actually is an order permitting any discovery that Orly can persuade the Court that she needs to defend against the Motion to Dismiss!

[iontheball]

You would have to read the motion to dismiss to determine what discovery may be reasonably related to the motion. My understanding is that the motion is the same ol’ same ol’ standing argument. This is a procedural issue that would not get to the merits or the BCs. However, thank God the judge has already signaled that he is not inclined to buy this argument. What he has done is to assign the motion to dismiss and discovery to the magistrate, who works under his supervision.

[Truth Exists]

This is not the judge's order (see how it is not signed). This is written by Obama’s attorneys in the hope that the judge will sign it. You can tell who is putting forth papers by looking at the top. Sometimes judges sign these and sometimes they write their own orders. Until the judge decides on this motion to stay discovery, it doesn't mean anything definitive.

[Non-Sequitur]

So an order that starts out sounding like a stay of all discovery actually is an order permitting any discovery that Orly can persuade the Court that she needs to defend against the Motion to Dismiss!

And?