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To: Seizethecarp
My point is that if Obama resigns before any Kenyan BC even begins to be validated in federal court

Obama will be REQUIRED to submit HIS documents to make the validity of the Kenyan documents moot. This case is all about DISCOVERY. Once he produces or fails to produce documents and CAN'T prove his eligibility, it will be OVER for him. He will have to Quit or be forced out by public uprising. We won't have to wait for a court decision.

10,132 posted on 09/05/2009 9:28:09 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman

Obama COULD be gone by the end of the week


10,133 posted on 09/05/2009 9:29:42 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman
If Obama resigned, all the current cases against the sitting president would have to be reassessed to see if the plaintiffs have standing to bring a cause of action in a specific court with jurisdiction against now private citizen Obama, who was never proved ineligible ni a constitutional proceeding and who is legally protected for acts committed while president.

I would think all the military cases would be totally out the window (moot). Just validating a Kenyan BC in a US court will be daunting, given the corruption in Kenya. Kenya is deeply divided with less than half aligned with Obama’s cousin, Odinga, and the rest against him.

I doubt that the “chain of custody” of Lucas Smith's document can be proved sufficiently to satisfy a court. Getting testimony from anyone in Kenya will be problematic.

While Smith's document has a signature stamp of the hospital administrator on it along with the hospital stamp and the official seal, all of those could have been “misappropriated” just long enough to be applied to real or forged document. Testimony would have to be obtained from all involved parties at the hospital in Kenya and other folks have commented that US courts have no treaty relationship with Kenya sufficient to compel cooperation (I don't know if this is true).

As you point out, the court of public opinion is another matter, and I agree. Obama knows whether this document is true, based on his evasive behavior regarding his refusal to release his HI vital records which I can only attribute to an attempt to hide vulnerability to discovery of a secret of this magnitude.

If the Lucas Smith sworn affidavit calls into question Obama’s HI vital records and drives federal court discovery is ordered in Orly's case...and then those vital records in HI indicate report of a home birth with no hospital or doctor witnesses I don't think Obama or especially the big money and big influence folks who found, groomed, marketed and teleprompted Obama to achieve their agenda will allow their agenda to be derailed by the paralysis of constitutional proceedings to formally and finally determine Obama’s eligibility. I think great pressure would be brought to bear on Obama to resign by his backers!

10,134 posted on 09/05/2009 9:58:09 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: faucetman
He will have to Quit or be forced out by public uprising.

And which public would that be? Even most Republicans just roll their eyes when you say that you don't think that Obama is a citizen.

Besides, we have to get rid of a lot more people than just Obama in order to take this country back. Quitting will not make his various appointments null and void. They will continue on until replaced by a new President. Will it be Biden? You see, my thesis is proved.

To put this country back on an even keel, a lot of people will have to be replaced.

10,137 posted on 09/05/2009 10:42:21 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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