PING!!
I’ve been through about 1800 posts and can’t remember if I’ve seen your name yet.
1) The copy of the birth certificate was generated February 17th, 1964.
2) Obama’s mother filed for divorce in January, 1964. Divorce was granted March 20th, 1964.
3) The father never contested nor responded to the divorce, the available ruling explicitly states this. His known address was in Cambridge, MA at the time, he was at Harvard.
Theory: Obama’s mother asked Kenya to generate the birth certificate copy to aid a divorce filing, perhaps so she could be granted custody of Barack. (she was)
Other than the final ruling issued by the court (available on internet), I believe the rest of the documents are still under seal.
I posted strong concerns about the document because it says Republic of Kenya before Kenya became a Republic. (It only became one a year after independence)
But if the document is real, then it could be among the sealed records in the divorce proceedings.
So is Mr. Soetoro still alive? Would he have this BC in order to register little Barry into the Indonesian school? Would he need this copy of the BC in order to go to court and adopt Barry? Would it really matter to him if Barry is Constitutionally prohibited from being POTUS? What about the Soetoro relatives? Might they have found this document while going through Mr. Soetoro’s files or estate? Could this be a way of cashing in on a good paycheck now? Could it have been in Barry’s school files in Indonesia? If this is a real document, I think it’s likely origin is Soetoro/Indonesia.
Problems.....
The document is dated in 1961 and refers to "The Republic of Kenya". The Republic of Kenya did not come into existence until 1964. That is an indisputable fact. Find a way to explain that and I'll listen.
There are two places for signatures, one for Obama Sr. and one for an official. Both are blank.
There are no details regarding time of birth, weight, attending physician, etc...It's possible that Kenya never records these but it is a question.
The line for "Christian" name. I have known two people born in Kenya in this time frame. Neither had a Christian name. One was a Kikuyu named Waithera the other a Lao named Ashieng.
The last few are small issues but should be addressed. The first, the fact that there was no Republic of Kenya in 1961 is a deal killer.
Why is it in ENGLISH?
serious question- don’t they have their own language?
bump.
This should be made to be the HUGE deal it really is. CONGRESS needs to get involved and settle this, once and for all!
No more MONEY to Kenya until they can prove or disprove this. As well, the DOJ, FBI, and Congress should subpoena Hawaii State officials and records.
This thread is an insult to my intelligence.
The Republic of Kenya did not exist in February of 1961, let alone August of 1961.
Read up about the Colony of Kenya and the Dominion of Kenya.
Kenya was declared a Republic on December 12 1964 and this fake document shows Republic of Kenya and it was dated February 17 1964 i.e. before Kenya was declared a Republic.
Any confirmation from the Keyes camp? website?
PING!
It says “Republic of Kenya.” Kenya did not become an independent republic until 1963, and wasn’t called “Republic of Kenya” until 1964. 0bama was born in 1961, when it was called the Dominion of Kenya.
I can’t read fast enough to ensure no one else posted this:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105764
Per wnd:
“WND was able to obtain other birth certificates from Kenya for purposes of comparison, and the form of the documents appear to be identical.”
“Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn’t want his name known because “he’s afraid for his life.””
“Taitz told WND she plans to file additional paperwork with the Florida court tomorrow, adding the alleged Kenyan birth certificate to Maj. Cook’s case.”
Barry, Barry interesting....
Mossad DOES celebrate Christmas, after all. In August.
If this is real, whoever released it MAY have a copy of that birth register book.
The trick is getting the Kenyan to keep digging himself deeper by his public denials (as Gibbs and the SRM just did last week), THEN clobber Omoslem with evidence, and when they deny that + double down, hit them with even bigger evidence.
Hey Omoslem, if you were indeed born in Kenya, we’re gonna run you all the way back to Mombasa you little commie piece of sh*t.
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
Notice of Electronic Filing
The following transaction was entered by Taitz, Orly on 8/1/2009 at 10:08 PM PDT and filed on 8/1/2009
Case Name: Ambassador Alan Keyes PhD, et al v. Barack Hussein Obama, et al
Case Number: 8:09-cv-82
Filer: Alan Keyes PhD
Document Number: 34
Docket Text:
NOTICE OF MOTION AND MOTION to Expedite authentication, MOTION for Issuance of Letters Rogatory for authenticity of Kenyan birth certificate filed by Plaintiff Alan Keyes PhD. (Attachments: # (1) Appendix Photocopy of Obama’s birth certificate from Kenya)(Taitz, Orly)
8:09-cv-82 Notice has been electronically mailed to:
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA david.dejute@usdoj.gov
Orly Taitz dr_taitz@yahoo.com
8:09-cv-82 Notice has been delivered by First Class U. S. Mail or by fax to: :
The following document(s) are associated with this transaction:
Document description:
Main Document
Original filename:C:\Documents and Settings\Orly Taitz\My Documents\Keyes%20rogatory%20motion%202[1].pdf
Electronic document Stamp:
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Document description:Appendix Photocopy of Obama’s birth certificate from Kenya
Original filename:C:\Documents and Settings\Orly Taitz\My Documents\Kenya BC.pdf
Electronic document Stamp:
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Dr. Orly Taitz
Attorney-at-Law
Orly Taitz Law Offices
26302 La Paz, Suite 211
Mission Viejo, California 92691
Telephone: (949) 683-5411
E-Mail: dr_taitz@yahoo.com
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA
SANTA ANA (SOUTHERN) DIVISION
Captain Pamela Barnett, §
Lt. Colonel Richard Norton Bauerbach §
Captain Robin D. Biron §
Colonel John D. Blair, §
Mr. David L. Bosley, §
Ms. Loretta G. Bosley, §
Captain Harry G. Butler, §
Representative Glenn Casada, Tennessee §
Jennifer Leah Clark, §
Representive Timothy Comerford, NH §
Charles Crusemire, §
Representative Cynthia Davis, Missouri § Civil Action No.:
Chief Warrant O. Thomas S. Davidson § SACV09-00082-DOC (Anx)
Matthew Michael Edwards, § TRIAL-BY-JURY
Lt. Jason Freese, § DEMANDED
Mr. Kurt C. Fuqua, §
Officer Clint Grimes, §
Representative Casey Guernsey, Missouri §
Julliett Ireland, §
D. Andrew Johnson, §
Israel D. Jones, §
Timothy Jones, §
Alan Keyes, Ph.D., §
Commander David Fullmer LaRoque, §
Gail Lightfoot, §
Lita M. Lott, §
Major David Grant Mosby, §
MSGT Steven Kay Neuenschwander, §
Representative Frank Niceley, Tennessee §
Retired Senator Jerry O’Neil, Montana, §
SFC E7 Robert Lee Perry , §
Representative Larry Rappaport, NH §
Colonel Harry Riley, §
Sergeant Jeffrey Wayne Rosner, §
MSGT Jeffrey Schwilk, §
Captain David Smithey, §
Lt. Commander John Bruce Steidel, §
Cmdr. Douglas Earl Stoeppelwerth §
Thomas J Taylor, §
Representative Eric Swafford, Tennessee §
Captain Neil B. Turner, §
Richard E. Venable, §
LCDR Jeff Graham Winthrope, and §
Lt. Colonel Mark Wriggle, §
Plaintiffs, §
§
v. §
§
Barack Hussein Obama, §
Michelle L.R. Obama, §
Hillary Rodham Clinton, Secretary of State, §
Robert M. Gates, Secretary of Defense, §
Joseph R. Biden, Vice-President and §
President of the Senate, §
Defendants. §
SPECIAL MOTION FOR LEAVE TO CONDUCT PRE-RULE 26(f) DISCOVERY
TO DEFENDANT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and
CERTAIN NON-PARTY WITNESSES
TO PERPETUATE TESTIMONY, PRESERVE EVIDENCE, and to
TRANSMIT LETTERS ROGATORY PURSUANT to
28 U.S.C. §§1781(a)(2)-(b)(2)
The undersigned counsel for Plaintiffs has acquired possession of a color copy of one certain document (attached as Exhibit A to this motion), regarding which there are no ready means of authentication except by recovery of the original document. As should be apparent from the nature and content of the document, if authenticated, and shown to be genuine, the contents of this document will significantly narrow and shorten the discovery and pre-trial litigation period necessary in this case, and might lead to an early resolution by settlement or transfer of these proceedings to the United States House of Representatives and Senate according the procedures outlined in the Constitution.
It is also apparent (and hearsay evidence available to Plaintiffs’ counsel aggravates her concerns) that political pressure may be brought to bear to destroy all relevant evidence, whether such evidence exists within or outside the borders of the United States of America.
It would appear to the undersigned counsel that either 28 U.S.C. §1781(a)(2) or 28 U.S.C. §1782(b)(2) or some combination of these statutory authorizations outlines the procedures by which to transmit letters rogatory and other requests to the proper authorities abroad in Kenya and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.
For two classes of evidence at issue here, namely all requests for relevant passport materials and other documents existing within the United States of America, as well as all requests to be made through diplomatic channels to foreign tribunals, Defendant HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON is the Secretary of State of the United States of America, and accordingly, Secretary Clinton is the first and primary proper target of letters rogatory to be submitted pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §1781(a)(2).
FIRST, Plaintiffs pray that this court authorize Plaintiffs to issue a special subpoena for deposition duces tecum to Secretary HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON be cited to appear within 21 days pursuant to (or in the letter and spirit of) Rule 27 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure (even though this action has been filed and served, many months will pass before the Rule 26(f) Conference can be held to plan for discovery among the parties). The purpose of Rule 27, even though designed for pre-filing discovery, is fulfilled and relevant here, in that some (above-noted) hearsay evidence exists that an individual involved in the examination of passport files at the United States Department of State relating to and involving certain 2008 Presidential candidates may have been killed in relation to such inquiry. Last year it was announced by former secretary of State Candoleeza Rice that there was tampering with the passport records of three major presidential candidates and it was investigated by the inspector general. Lt. Querl Harris was one of the suspects in passport tampering scandal. Washington post has announced that he was cooperating with the FBI and shortly thereafter he was found dead, shot in the head, sitting in his parked car. This case remains open and unresolved. Under such circumstances, “perpetuation of evidence” becomes a more and more significant and time-sensitive issue.
SECOND, Plaintiffs pray that this court will send a request for letters rogatory pursuant to 28 U.S.C.§1781(a)(2) to Defendant HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and other relevant officers in the United States Department of State to issue and transmit letters rogatory through proper diplomatic channels to the following foreign offices of public record and vital statistics:
For the Republic of Kenya:
KENYA
The Principal Civil Registrar
Dept of Civil Registration
Office of the President
PO Box 49179
Nairobi
Kenya
Tel: 227461
And/or
Office of the Principal Registrar
Deputy Registrar
Births, Deaths, and Marriages for the
Coast Province of Kenya
(or its modern successor, equivalent jurisdiction) in and for
MOMBASA, KENYA
(formerly British East Africa)
and/or
Kenya High Commission
45 Portland Place
London W1B 1AS
Tel No. 020 7636 2371
E-maiL: info.uk@kenyahighcommission.net info.uk@kenyahighcommission.net
http://www.kenyahighcommission.net/
searchcertappforms.html
And/or
www.direct.gov.uk
General Register Office
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/contact_us.asp
Certificate Services Section
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Passports/
WhoiseligibleforaBritishpassport/DG_174145
General Register Office
PO Box 2
SOUTHPORT
PR8 2JD
Tel: +44 (0) 845 603 7788 (8am to 8pm Monday to Friday. Saturday 9am to 4pm).
THIRD and in the alternative, Plaintiffs pray that this court issue and transmit letters rogatory and requests directly to each of the above-and-foregoing listed foreign offices or agencies (or to the relevant tribunals with appropriate jurisdiction in the relevant countries) without the intervention or assistance of Defendant HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and/or other officers of the Department of State and/or the Department of Justice of the United States of America.
It is urgent that this request be prosecuted prior to the normal onset of discovery in this case, again, according to the general letter and spirit of Rule 27 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure regarding the perpetuation of testimony. There has never been a constitutional challenge to the identity and eligibility of a sitting President of the United States and so there are no direct precedents regarding this matter, but it is fairly safe to say that the potential consequences and fallout from this present filing being made public will be severe and significant, even though the undersigned counsel makes absolutely no pre-judgment or prediction regarding the actual authenticity of the document of which only a color copy taken by a camera at an odd angle, which is attached herein as Exhibit A.
PRAYER FOR RELIEF
For all of the above-and-foregoing reasons, Plaintiffs pray that this court will grant leave to the Plaintiffs to conduct the aforementioned special discovery immediately and prior to the normal Rule 26(f) Conference, pursuant to Rule 27 and all or some subset of the procedures authorized in 28 U.S.C. §§1781(a)(2)-1781(b)(2). Although the urgency of this request cannot be overstated, 21 days is the normal time for service of such a request as this under Rule 27 of the Federal Rules, and the undersigned counsel reminds the Court that she will be out of the United States from August 2, 2009, to August 24, 2009.
Respectfully submitted,
Saturday, August 1, 2009
Lughnasadh/LaLunasa
By:________________________________
Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. (SBN 223433)
Attorney for the Plaintiffs
26302 La Paz, Suite 211
Mission Viejo, California 92691
Telephone (949) 683-5411
E-Mail: dr_taitz@yahoo.com
PROOF OF SERVICE
I the undersigned Charles Edward Lincoln, being over the age of 18 and not a party to this case, so hereby declare under penalty of perjury that on this Saturday August 1, 2009, I provided facsimile copies of the Plaintiffs’ above-and-foregoing
SPECIAL MOTION FOR LEAVE TO CONDUCT PRE-RULE 26(f) DISCOVERY
TO DEFENDANT HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON and
CERTAIN NON-PARTY WITNESSES
TO PERPETUATE TESTIMONY, PRESERVE EVIDENCE, and TRANSMIT
LETTERS ROGATORY PURSUANT to 28 U.S.C. §§1781(a)(2)-(b)(2)
to all of the following non-party attorneys whose names were affixed to the “STATEMENT OF INTEREST” who have appeared in this case in accordance with the local rules of the Central District of California, to wit:
THOMAS P. O’BRIEN
LEON W. WEIDMAN
ROGER E. WEST
DAVID A. DeJUTE
FACSIMILE (213) 894-7819
DONE AND EXECUTED ON THIS 1st day of August, 2009
Charles Edward Lincoln, III
charles.lincoln@rocketmail.com
Tel: (512) 923-1889
Exhibit A:
Unauthenticated Color Photocopy of
Certified Copy of
Registration of Birth from the
Coast Province of Kenya
District of Mombasa
District Registry Office
Office of the Principal Registrar
Republic of Kenya, issued on the
17th day of February, 19
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/
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Letters Rogatory
Summary: Letters rogatory are the customary method of obtaining judicial assistance from abroad in the absence of a treaty or executive agreement. Letters rogatory are requests from courts in one country to the judiciary of a foreign country requesting the performance of an act which, if done without the sanction of the foreign court, could constitute a violation of that country’s sovereignty. Letters rogatory may be used in countries where multi-lateral or bilateral treaties on judicial assistance are not in force to effect service of process or to obtain evidence if permitted by the laws of the foreign country. 22 CFR 92.54 provides a definition of letters rogatory.
http://travel.state.gov/law/info/judicial/judicial_683.html
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