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V-shaped UFOs in NM photos
examiner ^ | January 16 2009

Posted on 01/17/2009 1:52:28 PM PST by JoeProBono

CHAMA, NM - Several meandering V-shaped UFOs near a mountain slope here turned up on a woman's digital photos. Three photos shot with a 21 megapixel camera caught multiple crafts approaching in the first frame, one craft in frame two moving close to the ground while the others take positions in the sky, and then frame three shows all of the crafts moving out of the area.

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To: JoeProBono

THE personnel, their postures etc. . . . seems pretty authentic, to me.


561 posted on 01/23/2009 12:02:55 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mysterio

What a pile of stinking absurd

ASSUMPTIONS

yet again!

LOL.


562 posted on 01/23/2009 12:04:06 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoJo Gunn

Though there is this very wild rumor

that you could learn to enjoy this new personna.


563 posted on 01/23/2009 12:05:17 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GingisK

OR

1. Perhaps the Oligarchy recognizes that the first time they are used overtly in war, will be a very dramatic and impactful thing on the earth’s populace . . . all the more reason to reserve such until precisely the right fight(s) to insure maximum social pressure for the global government.

2. The critters may have given an edict about not yet.

3. The wars so far have not threatened CONUS.

4. They didn’t want to risk any of them falling into enemy hands when the stakes were not worth it.


Personally, I think the first one above is the only realistic one given all the data.


564 posted on 01/23/2009 12:11:04 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
As to why the US hasn't publically tipped its hand, I'd also wager that the original reasons for keeping these secret are still in affect. There are folks who would emotionally disintegrate if exposed to ET artifacts. With no threats against CONUS, they'd play it close to the vest.

Still, they are probably having trouble with some of the stuff.

565 posted on 01/23/2009 12:31:16 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Quite plausible.


566 posted on 01/23/2009 12:49:57 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
[IMG]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e15/mlossner/Alligator.jpg[/IMG]

Bill Phillips - 1988

567 posted on 01/23/2009 1:55:34 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Quix; JoJo Gunn; mysteria; JoeProBono; yazoo

Bill Phillips - 1988

I used to help produce a UFO Forum in Atlana. There was one very talented individual in our midst.

568 posted on 01/23/2009 2:09:25 PM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Talented and humorous!

Here’s some gleanings from ATS for the UFO ping list members who tend to be interested in such:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread428394/pg1

posted on 16/1/2009 @ 11:40

Large earthquake poised to hit So. Cal before February?

I’ve been following the Yellowstone thread quite addictively and throughly. Earthquakes are on the increase in the west during this time of heightened activity. Check out the current activity map from USGS.gov:

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The swarm of activity to the North, and South has been on the increase as of late. Lines of quakes have started in the ocean, and follow up to Yellowstone, and vice-versa. The two most noticeable swarms are in San Bernardino, CA, and Near Salinas/SF area. These both reside on the San Andreas Fault, and have either been building, or relieving tension during these swarms.
There is a null in activity from roughly Salinas, to Riverside, CA, that deserves close attention IMO. This area is known for producing large quakes in the past. This area also lies on the San Andreas Fault; Also, the fault makes a sharp north-northwesterly turn towards SF here.

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There have been no large quakes in this area for the short time, and medium-long term time frame. Nearly all active faults in California currently, or have recently had swarms, or a 3.5 or greater in the past month. I’m not saying “the big one” is not far off, but I do think that something with shake here within the next week.

[edit on 16-1-2009 by SpadeofAces]

Same thread—other poster:

posted on 16/1/2009 @ 14:16 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

I have been following yellowstone as well. I thought something was odd, so what I started to do is actually ‘see’ exactly where and what is being hit by transcribing the coordiantes into Google Earth.

What I found was astounding.

It seems that their little game of God is coming to light.
Knowing what we know now we can look back throughout History and Identify who received what from Tesla.

The Germans received ‘SDI’ because Europe was plagued by war. I am not here to give a History lesson to anyone, but a simple review will shed light on the subject. Cmd. SAS Rosenholtz is May of 1924 said “...to curtail the activity of the Air Fleet, because the invention rendered a large air fleet obsolete for the purpose of defense...” Luckily we won the war and absconded with their technology and scientists, which, by the way, did not stop Russia from developing the technology. Woodpecker event, and others give pause on the subject.

To America was given ‘power.’ Long story short, we do not have free power, and never will. We use the technology for the nefarious puproses as explained by Tesla. Whereas we can re-create a Tunguska Blast to any magnitude with “extreme accuracy” at any point on the Globe.

To England was given Holographic technology. As an allied country, we have shared and helped develop this technology. This day, Holographic technology will blow your mind !!! Want to know something, ask Scotland Yard.

To China was given power to control the weather, because China has such a large population.

We know who received Anti-Grav tech...no brainer there.

To your post...When you see a Hurricane develop from a Cat 1 to a Cat 5 in less than one hour...or when you see targeted earthquakes on infrastructure...or when a thunderstorm spawns 300+ tornado, know it is a manufactured event.

In the past we have used the device sparingly. However,if you are familiar and track these things, then you recognize the activity dramatically increased in the year 2000, and really got going in 2002.

I would say that less than 20% of all earthquakes are natural events.

There is no war, feast, or famine in the World today that has not been engineered.

I think the earthquake will undoubtedly be the Jan. 21-22 event. We need to suffer extreme damage as to set a catalyst for the new plan. Just like D-Day...just like Pearl Harbor...just like 911...they need to create something that will bind our Nation to do and follow a thing.

I doubt it will be Yellowstone though...there is no way to know the reaction or the consequences. An 8+ in Cali will work...

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posted on 16/1/2009 @ 15:10 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

There is a video posted on ATS, in which a man speaking French says that HAARP will be used to generate an EQ in California [by June]. According to this man, the reason for the EQ is to shift focus from their financial issues - California to issue I. O. U. ‘s

Then..

I see a show on the History Ch. talking about how California is “over due’ - the narrator then goes on to explain how the fault in Pointes Hills moves up / down, rather than side to side like the San Andreas creating a much worse EQ. What made me choke on my popcorn was how this man read off a Dollar value of damages,- 250 Billion. It was as if they were reading final stats of something that had already happened.

Is this perhaps the PTB have to disclose their intentions first [ warn the people in a T.V. show?]

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread429061/pg1

posted on 18/1/2009 @ 22:25

Phoenix Lights -— My Story.....

Greetings,

It has been nearly 12 years since the incident known as the “Phoenix Lights” was shown around the world, nearly 12 years that something has been burning inside of me. When the official explanations of the incident were released (mainly the story about Maryland ANG A-10 “Flares” story), myself and everyone else that had anything to do with the incident itself were deflated, as we knew it was false.

In short, on the night of March 13, 1997, USAF personnel stationed at both Luke AFB in Glendale and Davis-Monthan AFB in Tucson were a bit scared, as something was occurring over the skies of central and southern Arizona that night, and the on-duty personnel at both bases had no idea what it was. That night, Luke AFB scrambled two F-16C’s from the 56th Fighter Wing, however, these aircraft were not vectored southwest of Phoenix towards the source of the lights, but directly south towards Tucson. What is known further, is that less than 10 minutes later, a second set of F-16C’s from the 56th were also scrambled and sent south-east.

Radio reports from the first flight of aircraft indicated something “odd” was occurring, however the pilots never gave any indication or specifics (in the open at any rate), as to what that was. Both flights were kept away intentionally from the lights being seen near the Estrella range. It was obvious to all with access that there were other aircraft in the area, with orders to drop flares (whether this was the Maryland ANG is unknown). It was felt that this was indeed a “deception” measure to keep curiosity focused on one space in the sky, as flares were never used that far north of the Goldwater training range (as any Luke personnel can tell you, if they were, there would be weekly “Phoenix Lights” incidents).

The next morning, wing intelligence units at both Luke and Davis-Monthan were scrambling to compile information. No one knew what had occurred the night before, but for some top officers that were summoned in during or just after the incident, there was an element of anxiety (I would not say fear, though many were disconcerted). The “hush” order took a few days to trickle down, but it was not a complete wash-up. Because of the sheer amount of public scrutiny, focusing on the “flares” video and photos allowed for a convenient and plausible explanation. Few in the mainstream press talked about the “other” sightings that night, focusing on the large triangular craft that had passed over the Phoenix metro area, the outskirts of Tucson, and over Fort Huachuca before slipping in to Mexico.

Neither did anyone mention the F-16’s at all. Even though we KNOW there were numerous civilian witnesses to the scrambles (and even a few mentions here and there), NO ONE in the media asked what we all hoped they would, if this entire incident was just “flares” dropped from ANG aircraft, why then were four F-16’s in the air that night, with one pair flying all the way to the Mexican border before turning back to Luke?

The incident has quietly fallen down the memory hole for most, but not for many USAF personnel close to the incident that night. There is a considerable amount of information that was never leaked, and for an incident of this magnitude, the mind boggles as to why.........

AL

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posted on 20/1/2009 @ 03:09 single this post “quote”REPLY TO:

Due to ATS posting guidelines of 4000 Characters am splitting this into two posts (since it would not allow me to do so in one). Part 1:

Gentlemen (or ladies)….

To begin with, I would like to state a few personal facts before I expand upon my original post. First, I am in no way a “fanatic” when it comes to UFO or paranormal phenomenon. At least, until that March evening in 1997, and even then, I tried to look to Occam’s Razor as a source of comfort, alas knowing what I knew about that night, no simple explanation was forthcoming.

Second, I am now retired from active duty from the United States Air Force. I will provide further information, but wish to be discreet as possible. While no one in my unit was ever specifically threatened, we were “encouraged” to stick with the official story, not in an ominous way mind you, but merely had the “facts” hammered home. We all received the message that was relayed.

Yes, I was stationed in Arizona at the time. No I am not comfortable to give any further personal information than that (rank, unit). I will separate what I know below as “fact” that knowledge gained from firsthand experience and “alleged” that knowledge gained through trusted sources (friend in other units, other bases):

Facts:

On the night of March 13th, 1997, an alert klaxon sounded at Luke, orders for two armed aircraft to perform an immediate take-off to 10,000 feet, and head south-east towards a radar sighting north of Casa Grande, Arizona. The first two aircraft, from the 56th Fighter Wing (310th Fighter Squadron), were armed only with 2x AIM-9M Sidewinder missiles and 20mm Vulcan cannons each. Once the flight was airborne, the flight leader called in that something “odd” was occurring after he picked up a radar contact a few thousand feet below, and several miles ahead of his position. His radar was showing “clutter” common to stand-off jamming.

This led to two further F-16C’s from the 56th, that were being fueled and armed since the first flight was launched, being sent up. This pair, in addition to the armament as above, also carried 2x AIM-7M Sparrow medium range missiles as well. They were also vectored south-east towards Flight 1 (now over Marana, AZ and approaching Tucson) on full afterburner. Flight 1 leader was able to regain radar contact on something large and low that was beginning to accelerate rapidly. Flight 1 lost the contact approximately 7 miles south of Tucson, and was ordered to proceed close to the border and try to regain contact.

Once Flight 1 lost radar contact, Flight 2 was ordered back to Luke (Flight 2 had just approached the Tucson area). Once Flight 1 was on station, attempts were made to re-establish radar contact to no avail. After 10 minutes or so, Flight 1 was ordered back to Luke. ALL of this occurred as the “flares” were being taped and photographed south-west of Phoenix. No aircraft were vectored to that area to investigate.

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Part 2:

Alleged Facts:

Further scramble of aircraft was initiated from Nellis AFB, Nevada (prior to the Phoenix sighting) and Holloman AFB, New Mexico (around 10 minutes after the Flight 1 scramble from Luke). F-16’s from Nellis, no word on aircraft type from Holloman (at the time it was the only F-117A “Stealth Fighter” base, with the Luftwaffe having a training squadron of Tornado aircraft, neither would have been used on an intercept mission).

Towers at several locations had tapes of the “event”. Radar at Luke and Davis-Monthan were picking up low level “noise” on several frequencies, similar to what had happened to Flight 1. This “noise” was consistent with active wide-spectrum jamming. It was highly unusual for this to occur in an area that did not have that type of (jamming) training environment (nearest place this was done was at the Nellis AFB range). According to many in the know, something physical was in the sky that night, with radar data providing the primary source of evidence. That “something” entered Mexican airspace and promptly disappeared. Maximum recorded speed was at Mach 1.8 past Tucson nearing Fort Huachuca.

The next day, intelligence units at both Luke and Davis-Monthan were abuzz. No one knew what had occurred, other than something physical was in the sky, an intercept was attempted, and there were thousands of eye-witness accounts (many of these being the flares). Orders were apparently given for a flare-drop near Phoenix by a unit returning from the Goldwater range. This was considered highly odd to say the least, as that order was given while the main event was unfolding. These aircraft were likely A-10’s.

Other than that, all I have is a lot of second-hand hearsay. Mainly stories people would tell while drinking, etc. The above information is from my self, and from close friends whom I trust a great deal. Other than the above, I would not speculate further, as it would take away from the facts and only fuel sensational speculation.

Why I post this on ATS? I came across ATS a few years ago out of curiosity, and started to read it about once a month (never posted). There are a lot of good, level-headed people here (and a fair share of “eclectics”), but I believed this would be the best way to post the information for people to digest.

Thanks,

AL

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569 posted on 01/24/2009 2:12:44 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Las Vegas Dave; doug from upland; SunkenCiv; JoeProBono; GingisK

Forgot to ping y’all to the above.


570 posted on 01/24/2009 2:13:46 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping..


571 posted on 01/24/2009 2:25:57 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave (Illegitimi non carborundum - "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: GingisK

Seems to be a decent video of Phx Lights incident. Don’t recall if posted before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpFN85iahXo


572 posted on 01/24/2009 2:27:19 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

What, can’t a man have a bad day around here?


573 posted on 01/24/2009 3:36:50 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (In this dance of Life, I have two left feet.)
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To: GingisK

On another thread I’d wondered why implanted thoughts don’t seem to work on publicity seekers.


574 posted on 01/24/2009 3:40:21 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (In this dance of Life, I have two left feet.)
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To: JoJo Gunn
On another thread I’d wondered why implanted thoughts don’t seem to work on publicity seekers.

Thanks for the grin!

Maybe they do.

575 posted on 01/24/2009 6:53:21 AM PST by GingisK
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To: JoJo Gunn
How many Freeper names do you need, by the way?

For reference:

 http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2108256/posts?page=44#66

 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2170415/posts#43

 

576 posted on 01/24/2009 6:58:49 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (In this dance of Life, I have two left feet.)
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To: GingisK

Again I say those supposedly highly advanced aliens are pathetic amateurs when it comes to hiding and/or hypnosis.


577 posted on 01/24/2009 7:05:34 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (In this dance of Life, I have two left feet.)
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To: GingisK

“The best security is “physical security”. Virtual security leaks.”

Actually, the best security is keeping everything in databases to which access is granted on a need to know basis. If you try to print or access that which you are not entitled to read the network monitors will pay you a visit. It is impossible to stop a spy from divulging what he knows, but by limiting access you can minimize the damage.


578 posted on 01/24/2009 7:16:18 AM PST by yazoo
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To: JoJo Gunn

Bad days are tolerable.

It’s the bad decades that are frowned upon.

. . . or is it the careers at being bad?


579 posted on 01/24/2009 8:43:44 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Again I say those supposedly highly advanced aliens are pathetic amateurs when it comes to hiding and/or hypnosis.

I don't know of any evidence that would lead me to believe they are the ones trying to hide. Everthing I have seen indicates that it is the US government who wishes to hide them. The ETs don't have an interest in rubbing all of this in our faces; otherwise, they could do as they please to make the necessary introductions.

The ETs are not gods, so they don't have all the answers, especially concerning human psychology. I think most of the "forgetfullness" stems from post-traumatic stress in the human rather than effort on the part of the abductors.

580 posted on 01/24/2009 9:41:57 AM PST by GingisK
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