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W is worse than Poppy. Look. there is but one way to go to war. As Liberal A man as FDR was even he understood what war meant. Bush nor his dad however understood the moral implications of doing such. Was is an absolute act. Is is a punishment upon a nation Period. It is done with extreme prejudice Period. It is not done to reward a people who allowed a tyrant dictator and will now allow far far wore {an Islamic Cleric} to rule them Period. How many men and women will die in the hands of the new technology fully equipped Iraqi military once the Clerics take over? Saddam was a thug. But there were and still are far worse ones. Name me the Iraqi who flew a plane on 9/11. Name me even one Iraqi hijacker. What were the nations again? Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and others. We had 100% reason to level Yemen but Mr Global Trade refused.

The war in Iraq become a nation building project before the first shot was fired in in doing so BUSH LIED TO THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES on that very matter. The second Bush/Gore debate is proof of it. He blasted Clinton/Gore for it saying he was not for nation building then months later did the same exact thing.

Bush lost my support on Iraq on about the third day when it was obvious to anyone with two functional brain cells he intended to leave Iraq's infrastructure intact. As a result a war that should have been months will be over a decade. Baghdad Bob made Bush look a fool. It was not cute and it was not funny. Bush wanted a media parade war.

The war in Iraq should have been measured in months namely about 12 and complete and total destruction of Iraq to where it never again would or could be a threat. That is war. Neither Bush had the stomach nor political will to do so. Had they done so Iran would not be testing us.

Remember what I said about Fords Failures? That's just who Junior brought in too. Rummy was one of the most pathetic Sec of Def to serve. I know as I saw his mess under Ford. Rummy was the Father of the Hollow Carter Military. It was running on empty when Carter took over and except for the nomination of SECNAV Hildigo by Carter things did not improve till Reagan took office. Hildigo however did begin the process of restoring our Navy to what it was supposed to be. I know as I was active duty three months under Ford and three years nine months under Carter. I saw both presidents military. I can not speak for other services but the Navy in late 1979 started a change for the better.

You would not like my thoughts on war. You would call me a beast and likely a barbarian. Bush lost the rest of what moral authority he had to be CIC when he sat on his hands while good United States Servicemen were Court Martialed for political correctness reasons for actions under fire against an enemy out of uniform in most cases. You train men to kill then damnit don't scold or punish them for doing so in war. I am 1000% sick of his you are with us or the terrorist B.S. he used to push unrelated policy as well namely FTTA.

I am not anti-war myself but I do not support the policies of war as set forth by Lyndon Baines Johnson and four Republican Presidents have followed. How much more clear can I be on that matter? Bless strong military leaders like Patton, Sherman, McArthur, Forrest. and others who knew what it took to win and yes bless the CIC's with the wisdom to allow them to actually do their jobs.

I have no use for those who yell war and send troops into it then lay down rules for fools conditions to restrict our troops capabilities. Bush needed to be called on the carpet by GOP congressional leadership for his Iraq policy. Where the hell were they? Our troops should be home not on third and fourth deployments. How can you defend what can not be defended? Supporting our troops means giving them the equipment and a military mission not a Bush's Habitat for Humanity field Office.P> If Bush wants Iraq re-built fine. Let him and Jimmy Carter take their own money and hire their own crew. Not on my dime.

BTW Executive Orders can not become law when congress acts. Congress had the authority and duty to stop Clinton.

FDR took us to a World War on two paragraphs declaring such. Bush took us to war on pages of U.N. Resolutions Butt Wipe paper. Understand the difference yet? That alone should show you the depths to which our nation has fallen.