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Just Say NO to Mcbama and Ocain! [thread left up as a pinata, rules suspended-Jim]
Gentlewood Journal ^ | 10-27-2008 | Dan Jacobson

Posted on 10/29/2008 11:56:01 AM PDT by agrandis

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To: djrakowski
They have the added benefit of not being muddied by the two major parties, and can stand on the sidelines when this country starts to disintegrate, and say, “See, I TOLD you this would happen!”

Apparently they’re not confident in their abilities to actually win as Republicans. And when your candidate as nutty as Chuck Baldwin, that shouldn’t come as a surprise.

You got that right. I can legitimately speak to this issue as I was once sucked in by these wackos. Fortunately, I never voted for them. I only sent money.

Can you imagine an any more bigger hole in which to sink your money? They are theives. They take your money and your hopes and give you nothing in return.

261 posted on 10/30/2008 10:31:10 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: cva66snipe

Self-righteousness != righteousness.


262 posted on 10/30/2008 10:32:51 AM PDT by djrakowski
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I learned my lesson the hard way when I voted for Perot in 1992 (my first presidential election). Boy, was I a fool back then.


263 posted on 10/30/2008 10:34:30 AM PDT by djrakowski
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To: cva66snipe
Too bad. History of mankind {Bible} shows that righteousness of a few eventually wins over wrong of many.

Are you alleging that there are no righteous people in the Republican party. At least they give you some return on your money and your hopes and that is more than you get out of any so-called third party.

I allege it is more righteous to be a Republican than cling to the false hopes of a third party.

Don't feel bad. They had me fooled at one time, too. I repent.

264 posted on 10/30/2008 10:36:26 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: cva66snipe; djrakowski

Proverbs 8:13
To fear the Lord is to hate evil;
I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.

People voting third party at this point are full of pride and arrogance. Their way or the Highway, no matter the outcome.

As a Dear FRiend of mine said last night, if you’re the only one in the room who thinks an idea makes sense, better think hard about whether it’s right or not.


265 posted on 10/30/2008 10:39:37 AM PDT by netmilsmom ( Obama And Osama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon)
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To: agrandis
McCain is old, and may die in office, and the true conservative Palin will take his place.

You can't blame me for hoping.

266 posted on 10/30/2008 11:23:04 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: rangeryder
"McCAIN: I thought it (Roe v. Wade) was a bad decision. I think that decision should rest in the hands of the states. I'm a federalist. And I believe strongly that we should have nominees to the Supreme Court based on their qualifications rather than any litmus test. They should be judged on their qualifications. I will find the best people in America who have a history of strict adherence to the Constitution. And not legislating from the bench." So what's wrong with that answer?

I never said anything was wrong with that answer. But what is wrong with it, now that you bring it up, is that his record proves otherwise, and with the people with whom he surrounds himself, you can be sure he would continue to do otherwise.

Put your hope in the race horse if you must - some of the rest of us are going to start taking our country back.

267 posted on 10/30/2008 11:28:46 AM PDT by agrandis (What kind of nation sends its women into combat?)
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To: cva66snipe
Had the GOP abided by working within in the Constitution and actually upholding it since taking over congress in 1994 Obama even if elected would not have never been a serious threat nor would anyone else.

It's incredible. You can reason all you want - these people are pure emotion, pick up on two or three disconnected words, and go off like a rocket.

The government schools, Hollywood, the MSM and our churches have done this to us. It's frustrating, and it's scary, but I estimate that we are at least 20% of the population, my friend, and we will at least be a resistance to reckon with, and I suspect we will prevail completely in getting our nation back, one way or another.

268 posted on 10/30/2008 11:38:43 AM PDT by agrandis (What kind of nation sends its women into combat?)
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To: agrandis

I’ll leave it to you to explain to God why you allowed babies to die while you’re trying to take back you country. It’ll be a helluva lot harder to take it back once 0bama stacks everything against people who share your beliefs.


269 posted on 10/30/2008 11:42:38 AM PDT by djrakowski
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To: Ronin
I hope there are not too many Americans that are as dumb as you.

I would like to think so, too, but I must say after seeing the reaction on this forum to this article, and seeing that nearly 90% of voters plan to vote for either Obama or Obama in Republican's clothing, I'm afraid most Amricans are AT LEAST as dumb as I am. It's bleak, I know.

270 posted on 10/30/2008 11:43:03 AM PDT by agrandis (What kind of nation sends its women into combat?)
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To: agrandis

What a steaming load of taurine feces. You’ve yet to substantiate your claim that 0bama and McCain are one and the same.

0bama pledged to make FOCA a priority right after taking office. FOCA would overturn all restrictions on abortion passed at state levels across this country. Has McCain promised to do the same?

0bama has a 100% NARAL voting record, while McCain’s is 0%. There’s a big difference between 100 and 0, my FRiend.

As I said earlier, you keep trying to take back your country. Those of us with the ability to think clearly, realistically and strategically will hopefully negate those of you thinking solely of your delusional self-righteousness.


271 posted on 10/30/2008 11:49:40 AM PDT by djrakowski
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
That's why I have become so disillusioned with the Ayn Rand Institute. They endorsed Kerry in 04. I haven't heard where they stand now but it wouldn't surprise me if they are backing the 0.

And as far as Lew Rockwell, I won't take advice on politics from a guy who had an affair with Cindy Sheehan.

272 posted on 10/30/2008 12:11:25 PM PDT by Undertow ("I have found some kind of temporary sanity...")
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To: Jim Robinson
Just Say NO to Mcbama and Ocain! [thread left up as a pinata, rules suspended-Jim]

Jim,

Have you ever read 1984? If so, do remember a thing in there called the "2 minutes hate?" This thread so much reminds me of it, with the exception that there are a few dissenters, which was unthinkable in the 2-minutes hate.

You're welcome for playing the part of Goldstien.

Man, George Orwell was prescient.

273 posted on 10/30/2008 12:32:55 PM PDT by agrandis (What kind of nation sends its women into combat?)
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To: djrakowski
self-righteousness

Your post only shows how bats**** extremist loony NARAL is - it doesn't say anything about McCain's record on abortion. If we concede that there is no real battle against abortion, how will we fight abortion, politically? The GOP loves the issue, in order to get money and votes for essentially pro-abortion and completely pro-abortion candidates, but they have had complete control of the Federal Government for several years now, and in that time, the amount of money that was taken at gunpoint from you and I and given to the abortion butchers for their trade has increased exponentially, while abortion has not even been phased. As long as we tolerate that, and even demand candidates that promise to continue the funding, no ground will be made against abortion.

So, look up the definition of self-righteous, and tell me what I have said that betrays self-righteousness. It's another emotion-filled word that you are using nonsensically.

274 posted on 10/30/2008 12:40:01 PM PDT by agrandis (What kind of nation sends its women into combat?)
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To: agrandis

Uhhhhh, Jim’s not the gubmint, and this is his forum. Thus, he has the right to do anything he wants with his own rules.


275 posted on 10/30/2008 12:40:52 PM PDT by djrakowski
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To: djrakowski
I’ll leave it to you to explain to God why you allowed babies to die while you’re trying to take back you country.

You might want to start worrying about your own face time with God. What candidates have you been enthusiastically supporting now, for several years? What policies? What ignorance are you content to live with? How much money have you willingly given to this illegitimate government, to fund abortions and to otherwise kill other innocent lives?

276 posted on 10/30/2008 12:43:20 PM PDT by agrandis (What kind of nation sends its women into combat?)
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To: djrakowski
Uhhhhh, Jim’s not the gubmint, and this is his forum. Thus, he has the right to do anything he wants with his own rules.

Oh, I totally agree. It's just the same phenomenon, that's all, and it's fascinating. Our present government does it, too, in a little subtler way.

277 posted on 10/30/2008 12:46:03 PM PDT by agrandis (What kind of nation sends its women into combat?)
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To: agrandis

You’re a Ron Paul supporter aren’t you?


278 posted on 10/30/2008 12:48:17 PM PDT by McGruff (Vote for your local House Republican. Even if he's a RINO.)
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To: agrandis

Self-righteous: convinced of one’s own righteousness especially in contrast with the actions and beliefs of others : narrow-mindedly moralistic

Fits you and your cohorts to a ‘T.’ You’re standing on the sidelines as though you’re the smartest, holiest people in the room, and you’ve yet to prove your assertion that these guys are exactly the same. And you’re taking actions that have direct impact ont he elections, up to and including the possiblity of putting the most pro-death candidate in history in the White House. You could mitigate that, but you’ve instead chosen to act in a manner that keeps you pure and gives you the ability to say, “see, I told you so, I knew this country was going to hell in a handbasket!”

It’s the very definition of self-righteousness, sir.

Please point out the similarities in McCain and Obama’s abortion voting records to substantiate your claim that there’s no difference between them. Unless I’ve missed something, you haven’t even tried to do so, which means that we’re simply expected to take you at your word. Again, that’s a pretty good example of self-righteousness.


279 posted on 10/30/2008 12:51:48 PM PDT by djrakowski
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To: McGruff
You’re a Ron Paul supporter aren’t you?

Pretty much. Pretty much have always liked him, though he's not the best communicator. I didn't vote for him in 88, though, which was my first year to vote, because I thought I should vote for Bush, in case the state I lived in then went for Dukakis by one vote. I was young and stupid.

I do realize I'm pitching you a softball with that last remark. Feel free - hit it outta here!

280 posted on 10/30/2008 12:54:33 PM PDT by agrandis (What kind of nation sends its women into combat?)
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