Posted on 05/26/2007 1:49:34 PM PDT by Eurotwit
A few weeks ago – in between Hillary Clinton’s official entry into the presidential race and the first Republican primary debate of the cycle – the fiery online conservative forum Free Republic marked a decade in operation as one of the premier online forums for right-wing political discussion.
It also experienced one of the biggest internal battles to rock the site since the 2000 election of George W. Bush -- a tumultuous campaign year that nearly tore the site apart, as its founder and chief administrator first cleansed commenting ranks of Bush supporters, then, later, rallied to his support.
At the heart of the latest controversy: the fight over the conservative bona fides of Rudy Giuliani.
Over the past few weeks, chaos has reigned in the “Freeper” community as members sympathetic to the former mayor's candidacy claim to have suffered banishment from the site. They were victimized, they say, by a wave of purges designed to weed out any remaining support for the Giuliani campaign on the popular conservative web forum. Another significant chunk of commenters have migrated away from the controversial site over the action, according to a number of former site members and conservative bloggers who have been tracking the situation.
In a plaintive post on the blog “Sweetness & Light,” exiled commenter Steve Gilbert, who says he does not support the former mayor’s campaign, blasted the site’s new “anti-Giuliani, anti-abortion jihad.” Since George W. Bush was elected president, he wrote, “there haven’t been any large scale [Free Republic] purges to speak of – until now.”
The fight began one month ago, when site founder Jim Robinson posted an anti-Giuliani manifesto titled: “Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement.” Then the virtual ax started to swing. Longtime posters to the freewheeling discussion threads, used to serious no-holds-barred web etiquette, were still stunned by the intensity of the anti-Rudy activity; conservative blogs buzzed with the development.
“Jim Robinson has been going on a tear demonizing Rudy Giuliani, because Rudy (agreeing with the vast majority of Americans), is personally opposed to abortions on a moral level…” complained a user on the GOPUSA Web site. “Anyone who posts any support for Giuliani at the site, if it's at all forceful, will be banned.”
(“Normally, we don't allow complaints about other conservative forums,” chided the moderator, but “…because it is being discussed all over the Internet, I'll make an exception.”)
Just a few months ago, Rudy Giuliani placed second in an early Free Republic straw poll; now, his support on the site has been virtually eliminated. “After the ‘April Purge,’ I don't think there are any Rudybots left around here,” noted Free Republic commenter “upchuck” in one recent post. “And if there are, they're not posting pro-Rudy stuff :).”
The forums weren’t the only venue for the Free Republic’s new antagonism toward Mr. Giuliani, which coincided with a wave of comments expressing similar sentiments from other corners of the conservative movement. A few days after Mr. Giuliani’s equivocal Roe v. Wade comments at the Republican presidential debate on May 3, a new “STOP RUDY NOW News & Information Thread” was featured on the site, and a newly-created stand-alone category debuted via a link from the homepage: “The Giuliani Truth File.” (So far this campaign season, Mr. Giuliani is the only candidate – Republican or Democratic – to be singled out for that level of scrutiny from the Free Republic.)
Why Rudy? Why now? Some conservative bloggers and former commenters contacted for their view of the continuing controversy say they believe that site founder Jim Robinson holds ideologically middling Republicans like Mr. Giuliani responsible for the GOP’s congressional loss and current woes. (They asked that their names be kept out of this story for fear of antagonizing the famously frisky site regulars.)
Others claim that the former mayor’s top-tier status is spurring frantic site administrators into action. Finally, one popular theory holds that the Free Republic is secretly hoping for another Clinton presidency that would send its Alexa ratings soaring back to levels it hasn’t experienced since its halcyon days of the Clinton impeachment, when a since-soured relationship with blog pioneer Matt Drudge and overwhelming anti-Clinton sentiment in Republican ranks helped make Free Republic one of the hottest Web sites in the nation. It hasn't recovered that luster since the Bush administration took over.
“It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s an observation,” said one blogger, who describes himself as a half-hearted Mitt Romney supporter. “They’ve still got a brand name that means something, but they’re not what they were in terms of real-world impact. A Hillary presidency would get them there.”
Robinson himself could not be reached for comment, but his original post laid out his case against Mr. Giuliani – a graphics-heavy presentation of some of the former mayor’s most damning moderate quotes in mainstream media venues, along with a color-coded report card tracking his less-than-doctrinaire positions on abortion, immigration, gays and guns.
Robinson, it should be noted, famously blasted George W. Bush’s presidential candidacy back in 2000, before a dramatic late-campaign about-face that saw him emerge as one of the GOP ticket’s biggest supporters. But whether or not Free Republic experiences a similar election-year shift this cycle, the site’s current campaign is spreading a dangerous primary-season meme of Rudy Giuliani as big-city liberal – and turning one of the most influential web forums in conservatism into an exclusive gathering place for those who share that view.
This individual was not a pro-conservative American by any description.
I didn’t know anyone over 15 actually watched American Idol.
Duncan Hunter's son served two tours in Iraq and Peach had NOTHING good to say about him.
Show me where RadioAstronomer was warned by Jim Robinson. He was banned on that thread, and he had done nothing to deserve it.
Always thought she was more anti Hillary than pro Rudy.
Maybe she liked Fred before realizing how conservative he really is.
WA is a one big anti conservative TURN OFF.
And never really pretended to be. She surrounded herself with a group of like-minded FRiberals and they spent years convincing themselves that they belonged here because they agreed with each other.
..doesn't like the leadership here...
...insults & snarls at posters here...is argumentative & combative.
..WHY is he/she here?
There should be plenty for him/her to do at 'the other site'....
..Curious?....
Most of them were anti-Democrat, though I could never quite understand why. They liked Fred because they like the way he looks. But, I think you’re right, since he started putting out so many editorials recently they undoubtedly figured out he was a conservative and went back to Roody.
Bump.
With all due respect, the rudest posters remain. However, they're rudeness and vile attacks are directed at site approved targets so they get a pass. One poster here (and I'll never forget it or let it go) called a woman a piece of ---- in the open forum, and nothing was done. Why? She supported Rudy, so it was ok.
I'm still hanging around, because I think FR still does more good than harm, but my level of respect has been greatly diminished.
In all fairness, onyx always posts positive Fred remarks, against the tide.
“I didn’t know anybody over 15 actually watched American Idol”
How do you know I’m over 15?
But seriously folks, American Idol is a phenomenon, and even we on FR have a gigantic expansive Smoky Backroom
to discuss it, at least this year. Check out the probably now defunct or inactive American Idol area of Smoky Backroom if you want to be thrilled at just what depth of thought FReepers are capable of, especially me. (Insert smileyface emoticon here)
On April 5th, RadioAstronomer told another FReeper to go f*ck himself because he disagreed with RA’s contention that Terri Schiavo wasn’t important.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1809596/posts?page=318#317
He was allowed to come back and was banned for criticizing conservatives.
And she is no longer posting here, I wonder where she went . . .
Ping.
Peach was nice compared to Howlin.
There was an administrator posting as “O” at the anti-FReeper site, she is gone now. But there is an administrator named Onyx.
She’s a moderator at WA. That’s what I meant by supporting Fred ‘against the tide’.
Of course, what’s said in Salt River is probably a whole nother thing.
Public statements may be just a CYA show.
Salt River.
That's not exactly a glowing endorsement!
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