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To: kawaii; All; .30Carbine; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; DarthVader

I can’t think of a single Biblical promise of Holy Spirit not abandoning any human group.

He has not abandoned anyone who’s not abaondoned Him—and that pretty fircely and tenaciously. His Spirit will not always strive with man but He IS pretty tenacious.

Human organizations are something else. He will lift His anointing from individuals and groups somewhat in a flash depending. Bukt that’s not the same thing as abandoning them to satan. He works diligently to bring folks back around to the greatest intimacy with God they are open to.


312 posted on 05/12/2007 8:12:55 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix; kawaii; .30Carbine; betty boop; DarthVader; hosepipe
One last post before my company arrives.

Truly I believe many Christians enjoy and yet do not appreciate the ministry of the Holy Spirit since Christ was enfleshed, resurrected and ascended.

Jesus baptizes us with the Holy Spirit; mortal men do not baptize with the Holy Spirit. Rather, they baptize with water in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They commend but God attends.

Moreover, the Holy Spirit indwells us personally. His indwelling makes us a new creature, i.e. begins our new life.

I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and [with] fire: - Matt 3:11

And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. – John 1:33

[Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. – John 14:17

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? – I Cor 6:19

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. – II Cr 6:16

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. – Romans 8:9

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. – John 3:5-6

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. – John 1:12-13

Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. – John 15:4

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall [your] heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? – Luke 11:13

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: - Matt 28:19

And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as [he did] unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God? – Acts 11:15-17

So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. - I Cr 3:7

Physical things – such as the implements of the Temple, sacrifices, the Ark of the Covenant - can become Holy to God, i.e. consecrated to Him. Likewise groups of people, e.g. Levites, may be consecrated to Him. But that is not the same thing as the baptism or indwelling of the Holy Spirit which is God Himself abiding in us and we in Him.

318 posted on 05/12/2007 9:54:39 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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