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To: MissTickly; GQuagmire
"You can’t have fun at the expense of all women without getting flack."

You can't shame the unashamed.

For many, as long as there is pain, or the memory of pain, no one else is allowed to have "fun" at all. It just isn't respectful.

Most of the rest of us accept that what doesn't kill you can make you stronger. Sure there's pain. There always will be.

But there is also delight, wonder, and the hope of tomorrow. If you want something to materialize into your life, focus on it. Concentrating on remembered pain never lets it heal.

Taking delight in wonder and mystery can bring "fun" into even the most sordid and mundane existence.

1,963 posted on 07/26/2009 11:23:33 AM PDT by NicknamedBob (0bama is like Wiley Coyote walking on air, and now he just looked down.)
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To: NicknamedBob

Afternoon, Bob. Speaking of pain, my family members are home with sunburns.


1,964 posted on 07/26/2009 12:23:24 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Catz bites can be nasti. Embrace your irascible appetite!)
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To: NicknamedBob

“Most of the rest of us accept that what doesn’t kill you can make you stronger. Sure there’s pain. There always will be.”

As long as little girls are gang-raped—I will continue to fight and speak out against inequality. So, yes, I know I am stronger in that way. This happened to my daughter at age 15. ‘Pain’ is AN UNDERSTATEMENT. It’s anguish. My little girl didn’t tell me for 2 months. She thought she’d done something wrong, she was at a friends’ house and they were somewhere they weren’t supposed to be. My daughter is mildly developmentally delayed and at age 15, still very innocent.

Sexist men make me sick. You are right, they have NO SHAME.

Maybe some ‘awesome’ dude that gets his kicks raping developmentally delayed little girls will be kind enough to let me know when we are ‘having fun.’

“For many, as long as there is pain, or the memory of pain, no one else is allowed to have “fun” at all. It just isn’t respectful.”

I won’t let go of the outrage because there isn’t enough of it. I won’t accept that this is the way it is because grown men don’t endure this torture. And I and my daughter shouldn’t have to either.

And I can both enjoy life and hang on to my outrage at the same time.

I do appreciate your sentiment, but I am just sharing my experience which is never going to be as neat and clean as your suggestion.


1,965 posted on 07/26/2009 12:25:41 PM PDT by MissTickly
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To: NicknamedBob
Most of the rest of us accept that what doesn't kill you can make you stronger. Sure there's pain. There always will be.

I don't accept the former as axiomatic. I look at some who've been through what we've been through and it hasn't seem to have made them strong, or even stronger.

Not sure it's done that for me either, though it has taught me a lot about what I can take and just keep going -- but on the other hand, before this I would have *never* *ever* volunteered for public speaking engagements! (Maybe it's just made me insane. *\;-)

But there is also delight, wonder, and the hope of tomorrow. If you want something to materialize into your life, focus on it. Concentrating on remembered pain never lets it heal.

All of this is so true!!!!

And you never know -- our troubles became a way to save others from same.

1,985 posted on 07/26/2009 4:37:21 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - murdered by regime of murder)
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