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I get the feeling that some freepers love to see the picture of Rudy in drag. Some secret thrill they’d rather not mention to others.

As for the deliberate lies and misrepresentations, it’s just what we can expect from haters with no positive agenda for America. A lot of trashtalking and nothing worthwhile at all.

Every now and then this website gets taken over by madmen. This is one of those times. Kind of sad for a place with so much influence in the past. Now it’s a place to avoid.

Old Friend, it is not about hate. I do not support Rudy, but I do not hate Rudy. I disagree with his policies.

The point about the pictures of him in drag, and please, consider this carefully, is that that image will follow him along the campaign trail.

It will not be explained, but even if it is, the idea of America's President, Leader of thr free world, etc. in drag will hardly lend credibility to America as the world's superpower.

In many ways the President represents us all whether we agree with his policies or not.

At a minimum, we want an imposing figure of state, confident in bearing, firm in resolve, a picture, nay, an icon of strength who can, when need be, negotiate from strength with leaders of repressive, brutal, and mysoginistic cultures and societies worldwide.

Need I say what the pictures would do to that image? How that would affect the negotiations? Either Rudy would be forced to be far more forceful in order to establish his bonafides than would normally be necessary--an invitation to unnecessary armed confrontation--or would be perceived as no threat and not taken seriously in instances which were not worth going to war over.

Even if he won the election, (in spite of those pictures) those images would have far reaching connotations for not just the Office of the President, but the nation as a whole--connotations which would doubtless reflect upon our entire culture.

In some small circles a grown man dressing as a woman is seen as "brave", in most the effect on the perception of masculinity is the opposite.

It is seen as something guys might have done back when on Halloween, not as an adult, and not someone who would be President.

I get the feeling that some freepers love to see the picture of Rudy in drag.

What a lot of whining.

If it were John Kerry in drag, or John Edwards, or Obama-Osama, you don't think we'd be posting every picture we could find?

So why should any liberal in drag running for president be immune? It talks about their character, their seriousness about how they present themselves to the public, even their sense of humor.

Apparently, you object to Rudi's full record being examined and every facet of his character explored.

FR is not a warm and fuzzy place for liberal candidates. And that is exactly what the leftwing mayor is. Anyone who launches anti-gun lawsuits, seizes weapons, defends partial-birth abortion and says he'll pay for his daughter's abortion (well, if his daughter was even speaking to him) isn't exactly a conservative candidate.

What you object to is that your candidate should be fully exposes for what he is: very liberal even by Dim standards. He's more liberal than Jim Webb is. More liberal than many of those considered RINOs here whose defeat this forum has craved (McCrazy, Hagel, Snowe, Collins, etc.)

Your problem is that he may be a Lincoln Republican. But not an Abraham Lincoln Republican. A Lincoln Chafee Republican. And you object when we discuss him by the same exact standards we apply to Lincoln Chafee and other RINOs this forum has despised for years. Why should this one liberal, no, leftwing Republican be immune to the same identical standards we apply to every other Republican? Is running for president the one office in politics where we must grant immunity to even the most liberal candidates ever seen in the GOP?

OldFriend: Every now and then this website gets taken over by madmen. This is one of those times. Kind of sad for a place with so much influence in the past. Now it’s a place to avoid.

Please just go ahead and opus out of here then and save us having to read this whining. Who is forcing you to stay anyway? Go find yourself a nice RINO website to call home. Maybe you'd enjoy posting at the Mainstreet Republican site (liberal RINO caucus). Good luck with that.

Watch out for that screen door on your way out.