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To: Miss Marple; Jim Robinson; Spiff; Peach; zarf

“How is calling Rudy supporters “Rutards” or Romney supporters “Mittbots” helping advance the conservative cause?”

Please show me some posts when you have posted to Rudybots that calling him “Duncan Donuts” is inappropriate.

I’m not thrilled with ANY of the candidates. IMO they all have fundamental flaws. Rudy I could not vote for, under any circumstance. He is too far from my values on key issues for me.

Rudy supporters are quite a breed though. They employ logical fallacy after fallacy. For example, document some liberal position of his, and they whip out some “rutarded” article about how he’s a conservative. It is a red herring - it doesn’t address the issue brought up, such as how he didn’t lower taxes quite as the rudy supporter suggests, or his anti-gun and pro-abortion stances. It’s an appeal to authority “frontpagemag says he’s conservative, so he must be!” It’s this kind of anti-intellectualism that earned them the title “rutard.”

Now if some Rudy supporter said, “You know, I’m a liberal Republican and Rudy suits me just fine!” I could respect that, and disagree on the direction of the party and on his positions. But pretending that Rudy is some kind of Conservative in the mold of Reagan when he’s a liberal in the mold of Bill Clinton is why they have been called Rutards. Consider it shorthand, and consider yourself informed of the definition.

What’s worse is the abuse meted out to newer members of the forum by Rudy supporters that for calling rudy a “gun grabber” or “pro-abortion,” as bing a “DU Plant.”


289 posted on 04/04/2007 6:36:32 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Why did you ping me to this crap? I’ve never called Hunter any names and rarely go on any of his threads.

2) Clearly you haven’t read the links provided on Rudy threads if you think he didn’t lower taxes 23 times. ROFL

3) The rest of your post is just so much baloney that I’ll leave it at this: Don’t ping me to your nonsense again.


290 posted on 04/04/2007 6:40:16 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem; Jim Robinson
Well, I didn't know anyone had called Hunter "Dunkin Doughnuts." That is wrong, too.

What is this compulsion to make sure that any criticism is backed up by proof that you have criticized all equally? Are you telling me that you think "Rutards" is acceptable?

I want ALL of the name-calling to stop! All candidates! All sides! Post some INFORMATION or a COHERENT ARGUMENT! Accept that people are going to disagree, and chalk it up to the human condition!

Last night I saw someone saying that Ann Coulter was supporting Romney because she had a crush on him! Is THAT intelligent discourse?

And why did you feel it necessary to ping Jim Robinson?

293 posted on 04/04/2007 6:43:17 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
I called him Duncan Dounuts. Of course that was after weeks of Rudy being called everything from a “faggot” to Hitler. But I only used the term a couple of times, and only to give the anti-Rudy crowd something to think about.
296 posted on 04/04/2007 6:47:16 AM PDT by veronica
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