I trust you. But I dont think in the big picture, looking at the whole political spectrum, you can add it up and call him a liberal.Its frustrating for me personally because I have always been of the mind I would never back a liberal candidate, and I dont feel I am right now, so I think in these early debates were having on the fourm, some Rudy people, who maybe like me are sort of confused about how to approach making the case when being attacked from the right.
Back to identity politics though, it seems to me that a lot of support here and on other conservative websites goes to people whom we let the media define. When I see Fred Thompson getting a ton of conservative support this early being a complete unknown, and also having backed abortion rights as a senator, it indicates a leval of idenity politcs going on because MSNBC calls him a conservaitve...
You are welcome to your opinion, but no one with his view and actions concerning the 1st and 2nd Amendments can possibly be someone I would use the term “conservative” to describe - at least in the American sense. I view one’s position on the 2nd to be a good indicator of their view as to the proper place of government and the actual intent of the Constituion. Rudy fails that test just like Hillary does. He’s actually to the LEFT of Howard Dean on that test, and that takes effort.
“Back to identity politics though, it seems to me that a lot of support here and on other conservative websites goes to people whom we let the media define.”
Exactly. Rudy has been defined as the Great Hero of 9/11. The “America’s Mayor” spin came from *Oprah*, after all.
“I see Fred Thompson getting a ton of conservative support this early being a complete unknown, and also having backed abortion rights as a senator, it indicates a leval of idenity politcs going on because MSNBC calls him a conservaitve...”
Fred Thompson didn’t “back abortion rights as a senator”. He has a pro-life voting record. Thompson isn’t a perfect conservative, but he actually is one. Guiliani is not.