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To: Sooth2222
Why do you suggest that libertarians necessarily use illegal drugs?

That is what really disturbs me about these Drug Warrior Nazis. They heard that an LP plank calls for an end to the ineffective and hypocritical WOD and immediately assume that the LP is only pot smokers and junkies.

I supported the LP and regularly attended meetings until the War Against Islamic Fascism caused an LP Schism. There is still a disagreement over what constitutes an "initial initiation of force" in relation to a foreign power. In my opinion, the WTC was the initiation of force that warrants any and every response against Islamic Terror or those that embrace and hide behind it.

I never saw one person at any local meetings that appeared to have even used drugs at all. Even at the State LP Convention, I only saw a few persons out of hundreds that appeared to be one trick ponies for drug use. I suspect all of the actual Druggies attend N.O.R.M.L. meetings instead of wasting their time with Libertarians that never achieve their goals anyway.

The libertarian issue with the WOD is concerned with Federal programs that are not allowed by "The Constitution" and "Bill of Rights." I feel compelled to remind everyone how far we have strayed from the Goldwater Republican ideal.

I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution or that have failed their purpose, or that impose on the people an unwarranted financial burden. I will not attempt to discover whether legislation is "needed" before I have first determined whether it is constitutionally permissible. And if I should later be attacked for neglecting my constituents' "interests", I shall reply that I was informed that their main interest is liberty and that in that cause I am doing the very best I can.
-Barry Goldwater

I feel that I stand on the shoulders of Giants when I say that the WOD has not stopped drug use and must be abandoned for something that will certainly be better that what we currently have.

317 posted on 11/22/2006 3:01:07 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

That is what really disturbs me about these Drug Warrior Nazis. 

It shouldn't. It's their problem, not yours. You don't need their groupthink mentalities on your individualistic stand. 

They heard that an LP plank calls for an end to the ineffective and hypocritical WOD and immediately assume that the LP is only pot smokers and junkies.

It's a diversionary tactic. They can't debate rationally based on honest principle. They have a lot of empty rhetoric and sophistry. Least wise, that's what I've witnessed.

Consider this: if a bunch anti-WOD posters to these threads are druggies (not alcohol or caffeine--those don't count, ya know) the drug warriors are consistently losing the debate to a bunch of supposed losers. It's akin to fighting a war against inanimate objects -- drugs -- and losing. 

In reality it's a war against people that possess, use and or sell drugs -- but not alcohol and caffeine. Those don't count, ya know. 

324 posted on 11/22/2006 3:39:36 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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