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To: Dimples
That's a comeback? Most people know what their income is, without having to resort to the financial gymnastics of a 1040 to determine what taxable income is. A simple paystub contains all the information most people need.

Meanwhile, you just described having to go with a handful of forms on top of end-of-year summary statements to even remotely figure out what your taxable income is, let alone how much you actually wind up paying in net taxes.

The Fairtax way is simpler and far more intuitive.

158 posted on 10/20/2006 12:25:17 PM PDT by kevkrom (War is not about proportionality. Knitting is about proportionality. War is about winning.)
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To: kevkrom
Think about what you said:

How much did you spend over the course of a year? Simple -- take your income from all sources and subtract your net savings, multiply that by the NRST (tax-inclusive) rate, and there's your total taxes paid.

OK, that sounds a lot like filling out a 1040, with schedules A, B, & C: ... take your income from all sources ...OK, you've got your last paystub, or your W2 (some form of which will likely still exist for SS/MC wage reporting.) Then you've got your investment income, you know the Schedule B stuff, then you've got your capital gains (Schedule C), then you've got your rental income, then you've got your gambling income, then you've got your "other" income. I've probably forgotten a few, but today, I get statements ... probably still will under the FairTax.

That "simple" statement of "take your income from all sources" is no less complex under the FairTax than it us under the Income Tax.

Next:

Hmmmm ... net savings ... do I get a statement for that? Let's see take the starting balances of all my accounts and add them together, then take the ending balances of all my accounts and add them together, then subtract the ending total from the beginning total ... simple. OK. I never had to do THAT before. But you're right, it's not that hard. ... by the way, if I used some "savings" to purchase an equity or asset, and the asset has increased in value, does that increase my net savings? or should I ignore that? ... I'm sure the average investor will know what to do. OK. THAT'S easy. OK, that's easy too. The answer is $5,243.34. Is that good? Last year I got a refund. Well, glad to know that LAST part wasn't complicated! OK, now we're into Schedule B (on steroids). Let's see. How much did I pay in State and Local taxes. How about my mortgage payments ... OH , wait, a portion of my interest on my mortgage payment was taxable, so subtract that, and this time my principal was FULLY deductible WOW. Then there were my charitable deductions. OK....

... Now comes the hard part. How much did I spend on non-taxable purchases ... let's see where did I put those receipts ...oh, yeah... I didn't GET many receipts for my not taxable purchases. I got the one for tuition, and the E-Bay stuff ... oh I can probably look at my paypal account and my credit card statements to help figure that out; but then there are the garage sales and swap meets ... oh never mind. Hey you know, I NEVER had to track THIS much detail before just to figure out how much tax I paid!

Of course. What was I thinking!
216 posted on 10/20/2006 10:54:53 PM PDT by Dimples
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