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BREAKING NEWS: Two Border Patrol Agents who wounded a drug smuggler given 11 and 12 years prison.
Lou Dobbs / CNN | 10-19-06 | no dems

Posted on 10/19/2006 3:37:27 PM PDT by no dems

Edited on 10/19/2006 4:07:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Ex-border agents sentenced for shooting smuggler
AP

EL PASO, Texas -- Two former U.S. Border Patrol agents were each sentenced Thursday to more than a decade in federal prison for shooting a Mexican drug smuggler and then trying to cover it up.

Ignacio Ramos was sentenced to 11 years and one day, and Jose Alonso Compean was sentenced to 12 years. Both were fired after their convictions on several charges including assault with a deadly weapon, obstruction of justice, and a civil rights violation.

The men, neither of whom spoke in court, will be allowed to turn themselves in Jan. 17.

The agents have proclaimed their innocence in the Feb. 17, 2005, shooting of admitted drug smuggler Osvlado Aldrete Davila.

Aldrete was shot in the buttocks as he fled across the Rio Grande into Mexico after a confrontation with Ramos and Compean. The agents said they shot in self defense, but prosecutors charged that they had no reason to shoot at the fleeing man, who later claimed he was unarmed.

Since their convictions, support for the agents has swelled. Several prominent law makers, including U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, the Wisconsin Republican who chairs the House judiciary committee, have even called for a Congressional investigation into the agents' prosecutions.

The union representing most rank and file Border Patrol agents established a legal defense fund. And civilian border watch groups have asked the U.S. Attorney General's office to review the case and throw out the jury's guilty verdicts.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: agents; aliens; bds; border; borderagents; bordersecurity; davila; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; mexico
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To: PRND21
They weren't justified in their obstruction of justice, which you've been denying for weeks.

I've denied no such thing. Considering the governement's abuse in this case it's plausible they didn't obstruct justice. Personally, I think befriending drug smugglers, supressing facts, intidmidating defense wintnesses and jury misconduct represents a miscarriage of justice. You seem to think it's fine, don't you. You're positively orgasmic over the obstrcution of justics by the agents yet you support and defend the obstruction by the goverment.

701 posted on 10/20/2006 3:48:22 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: deport

We are literally on the same page. You just format better than I. ;)


702 posted on 10/20/2006 3:49:03 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Ajnin
Considering the governement's abuse in this case it's plausible they didn't obstruct justice.

"Look for...the Union Libel..."

See post #699.

You've been dishonest throughout, BP Agent Anjin.

703 posted on 10/20/2006 3:51:02 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: JCEccles; PRND21
Why are you defending the drug mule?

Because he or she is just working their shift on this thread. If you'll notice, the 'bots rotate their duties.

To PRND21: You realize, by continuing to post, you are bumping the thread ... ?

704 posted on 10/20/2006 3:51:46 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: La Enchiladita
To PRND21: You realize, by continuing to post, you are bumping the thread ... ?

Yes.
You realize, by continuing to blame the "bots", that you have no credibility?

705 posted on 10/20/2006 3:55:38 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21

Who is "blaming the 'bots?" What are you talking about?


706 posted on 10/20/2006 3:56:30 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless America, land that I love. NEVER FORGET ... Some Gave All ...)
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To: janetgreen
Do you believe the sentencing of U.S. Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean to more than 10 years in federal prison is a travesty of American justice?

Yes 96% 2385 votes

No 4% 104 votes

Total: 2489 votes

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

poll is active at this time.

707 posted on 10/20/2006 4:01:45 PM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: La Enchiladita

#704. You can't help yourself.


708 posted on 10/20/2006 4:02:12 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: WatchingInAmazement

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/


709 posted on 10/20/2006 4:02:43 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Get right with God....eternity is a long time.....)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
Oh, Oh. I think you're lost. Here's your home.
710 posted on 10/20/2006 4:21:48 PM PDT by onyx (We have two political parties: the American Party and the Anti-American Party.)
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To: JCEccles; PRND21
Why are you defending the drug mule?

Actually, PRND21 has stated on this thread that he believes the dealer should be jailed as well.

However, PRND21, this statement of yours is equally unfair:


Only the one percenters and grifters are whining about the decision.

Do you believe the sentencing of U.S. Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean to more than 10 years in federal prison is a travesty of American justice?
Yes
  96%
5685 votes
No
  4%
219 votes
Total: 5904 votes


Most of the folks in Washington that are complaining about this wouldn't fall into that category either. (A category, or two, that I don't even completely understand. One-percenter, i.e. biker? Grifter? Huh?)
711 posted on 10/20/2006 4:22:57 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I think so, Brain, but if we give peas a chance, won't the lima beans feel left out?)
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To: AnnaZ; PRND21

Hmmmm...looks like our friend is the "4%"er...


712 posted on 10/20/2006 4:26:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created..." - Thomas Jefferson et al)
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To: PRND21
"They weren't wrongly convicted. 12-0...Obstruction of justice. They are felons."

Yeah, and OJ walked. Go figure. The worst thing that you can say about these guys is that they didn't want to spend the next three days filling out paper work or maybe that they need a little more time at the range. I'm really starting to warm up to the idea of a twenty foot concrete wall with armored, robotic 50 cal turrets every three hundred yards. Sort of a Phalanx system for vermin.

713 posted on 10/20/2006 4:32:20 PM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: AnnaZ
That CNN poll, like many of these FR threads, does not mention what the agents were actually convicted of doing. Namely obstruction of justice.

Typical CNN BS.

714 posted on 10/20/2006 4:35:28 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Desron13
Yeah, and OJ walked. Go figure.

Irrelevant.

The worst thing that you can say about these guys is that they didn't want to spend the next three days filling out paper work...

What part of FELONY don't you understand?

715 posted on 10/20/2006 4:37:42 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: EternalVigilance
You have no credibility.

716 posted on 10/20/2006 4:39:05 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: PRND21

Hey, at least I'm convincing somebody.


717 posted on 10/20/2006 4:45:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created..." - Thomas Jefferson et al)
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To: EternalVigilance
Hey, at least I'm convincing somebody.

How are TBLSHW and Simcox?

718 posted on 10/20/2006 4:47:33 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: EternalVigilance

Do you believe that right and wrong is decided solely by majority vote?


719 posted on 10/20/2006 4:47:36 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: no dems
Outrageous! I bet the prosecutor and judge are involved in some other nefarious acts also. And then there was the stupid jury.
720 posted on 10/20/2006 4:54:35 PM PDT by Dante3
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