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To: Always Right
Glad you're "not indulging in personal attacks" (/sarc).

"... whether those rates will raise or fall. It makes no difference to this point ..."

Quite the contrary - the direction of change in the economy has a great deal to do with the discussion of the entitlement proportions in the FairTax makeup. Your belief that those proportions can only rise shows your thinking locked into a single specific view of the FairTax ... one at odds with every economic study on the FairTax.

I have not "insisted" as you put it that the 23% rate cannot change, but I have pointed out that the direction of change will be for the rates for the 2 entitlement components will be to fall, not rise as you claim.

Every single real economic study done on the FairTax shows that by the fact they ALL show increased economic activity due to the FairTax which will have the effect of boosting the GRR proportion at the expense of the entitlement portions - and that it would take an act of Congress to lower the 23% rate. I've said nothing about any Congressional action in raising the rate since that will clearly not be required.

Note here that I have called you no names, and made no extraneous charges as you do in your post.

473 posted on 10/21/2006 3:09:05 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog
I have not "insisted" as you put it that the 23% rate cannot change

Nice attempt to twist the subject yet again. You have insisted numerous times that it takes an act of Congress to change the 23 percent rate. Instead of lying and/or changing the subject, why not just say, hey I misunderstood it and was mistaken. Instead of looking like a fool and defending something that is clearly wrong. After you admit how the fair tax rate will automatically fluctuate with changes in the two entitlement components of the overall fairtax rate, then we can get to the debate about whether we think those rates go up or down. But right now that point is mute because you are mistaken about what the bill says.

474 posted on 10/21/2006 4:49:14 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: pigdog; lewislynn; Your Nightmare
and that it would take an act of Congress to lower the 23% rate. I've said nothing about any Congressional action in raising the rate since that will clearly not be required.

??? Are you now saying it would take an act of Congress to lower the 23 percent rate, but not raise it???? Even with that partial admission you are admitting lewislynn was right all along on that point.

And yes, you have made statements about it taking an act of Congress to both raise and lower the 23 percent rate despite what the bill clearly says:

post 310 by pigdog: "The infamous "unelected bureaucrats raising taxes" ploy you've continually tried (unsuccessfully) to use isn't correct and never has been. They merely determine the split of tax revenue required to fund the S/S entitlement as required by S/S law - which it should be noted isn't part of the FairTax law at all. They have no power to raise (or lower) the FairTax rate ... that's what we pay the "big bux" to Congress for."

post 328 by pigdog: "Any change in the overall FairTax rate would have to be done by Congress, not some "unelected bureaucrat".

post 351 by pigdog: " And to change the FairTax rate it would, indeed, take congressional action."

post 368 bt pigdog: "This means that the remaining portion which is the General Revenue Rate will in effect increase since the other two have decreased and the statutory rate for all three combined must be 23% (or whatever the rate ends up as in the bill) unless changed by Congress."

I hope 4 examples are enough, because there are more...

475 posted on 10/21/2006 5:16:11 AM PDT by Always Right
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