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To: js1138
There is still at least one instance of an uncaused cause. Since we can observe uncaused events in our everyday material world, the appeal to causation has no traction.

An uncaused event must have an infinite origin. Your inability to see a cause is not evidence of lack of a cause. It is hand waving. An uncaused event is known more commonly as a "miracle". The things you see without a natural cause are evidence of a supernatural cause, an infinite number of "miracles" right under your nose.
158 posted on 08/04/2006 11:54:57 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
An uncaused event must have an infinite origin.

There is, nevertheless, at least one instance of an event or entity that has no cause or precedent.

With that in mind, your assurance that quantum events have causes is vacuous. We know from the existence of existence that not everything has a cause or precedent. The lack of causation for quantum events is consistent with pure logic.

What has to be rethought is the concept of causation. That is obviously faulty.

165 posted on 08/04/2006 12:10:31 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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