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To: Ignatz
"Until some EVO researcher actually produces some POSITIVE evidence for the evolutionary appearance of first forms, then evolutionists do not have a dog in this hunt."

Tell you what, start here (29+ Evidences for Macroevolution) and then come back and we'll discuss this.

I want a detailed explanation of why these 29+ evidences are not POSITIVE evidence for evolution. I want you to be as specific as possible so there will be no misunderstanding.

Honestly, though, I don't expect you'll actually read any of that, but that's okay. The lurkers will see you for what you truly are.

909 posted on 07/28/2006 1:28:21 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Junior
Tell you what, start here (29+ Evidences for Macro-evolution) and then come back and we'll discuss this.

Okay, I will. I so hope they have the bones of the walking, talking, breathing, eating dandelions! That would go a long way towards convincing me....of...something.

I want a detailed explanation of why these 29+ evidences are not POSITIVE evidence for evolution. I want you to be as specific as possible so there will be no misunderstanding.

I don't know that they are NOT, I haven't read them yet. But I told you I would, and I will.
Now let's see....detailed explanations....ummm...POSITIVE meaning that "whatever" is there cannot be refuted? Nothing else could possibly explain any of these 29+ evidences? Is that what you mean?
Now, when I get there, there's not any of this "scientists THINK...", or "PRESUMABLY...", or "THESE FINDINGS MAY INDICATE.." crap going on is there? Surely you wouldn't waste my time with any of that, would you?
Ok. It'll take me a few days to check it out, and get my detailed explanations ready (assuming I can prove that any are NOT POSITIVE proof of macro-evolution. I so want to trade my religion for yours). While I'm busy with that, why don't you get together detailed explanations of how evolution explains the existence of physical laws and constants, where the energy for that "Big Bang" thing came from, and how, much like the original Frankenstein movie, the "lightning" created life in that primordial..oops! Sorry, I temporarily forgot: your religion doesn't do first forms/origins of the universe stuff. Don't despair! Einstein county Unify everything either.
Hmmm....
Surely you have personal beliefs on those matters, though.... Ok, I'll accept your personal belief in the origin of the universe, laws of physics, universal constants, and first forms.
Easy gig for you! No research, just a little soul-searching (so to speak, since you probably don't believe in the duality of the nature of man).

Honestly, though, I don't expect you'll actually read any of that, but that's okay. The lurkers will see you for what you truly are.

"Honestly"? Honesty would involve some sense of self and self-worth, certainly morality, and maybe a touch of spirituality. Which, of course, haha, we, ha! as mere evolved organic machines, *snort* could not possibly possess!ROTFL! I mean, what possible evolutionary advantage (actually crying with laughter, now) would a sense of self-worth, morality, and spirituality serve! HAHAHAHA! Those idiot ID'ers! That "honesty" crap ain't adaptive, so it must not exist! HAHAHAHA!!

Ok, I've a busy weekend planned and now I have to do your due diligence and critical thinking for you....oops! I mean I'd better get busy with those 29 steps to Changing My Religion!
Chat with ya next week!

939 posted on 07/28/2006 2:41:51 PM PDT by Ignatz (There's no place like 127.0.0.1)
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