[hosepipe]

[ This willful blindness is an “observer problem” – and it leaves the deep questions, the important ones, on the back burner of science and math. ]

Ah! the observer problem and the second reality..
The bane of all seekers of truth and axiom..

Without the "Spirit/spirit" my experience is I wouldn't know truth or axiom if I backed over it, fell down and buried my face in it.. My experience is that others are that way too...

The observer problem and second reality too, are ignored by many/most on these threads.. Sure they talk of minutia or talk around the subject at hand.. Admitting they have an observer problem(we all do) and could possibly be in a second reality(to some degree) is ignored..

The result(often).... two monologues...

[Alamo-Girl]

The observer problem and second reality too, are ignored by many/most on these threads.. Sure they talk of minutia or talk around the subject at hand.. Admitting they have an observer problem(we all do) and could possibly be in a second reality(to some degree) is ignored..

The result(often).... two monologues...

So very true, hosepipe! And such is often the case when we Christians are having a round table discussion with atheists. We have a common understanding and communication (the mind of Christ) which is not yet available to the other correspondents. They don't see what we see or hear what we hear.