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To: hellbender
I do not personally support dropping them for "religious reasons." I sympathize with those who support dropping them, but my reasons are political and ethical. I think the idea that dropping them will cripple science, and many of the other arguments for pushing evolution, are sheer hype.

I keep having visions of Lysenko and what he did to science in the Soviet Union. I don't want to see a version of that here.

If the folks who have specific fundamentalist religius beliefs succeed in forcing evolution out of high school science classes, will that satisfy them? Will they then be satisfied and call it a day?

Somehow I doubt it.

I think Heinlein said it best:

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics.

Robert A. Heinlein, Postscript to Revolt in 2100, 1953


1,116 posted on 07/28/2006 7:29:09 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Coyoteman
It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition

Certainly worked for the Jews, who delighted in crucifying Christ.

1,119 posted on 07/28/2006 7:33:12 PM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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The creationists are a small minority in most of the country, if not everywhere. The difference is that Lysenko had the power of a totalitarian state behind him, and why? Because his pseudo-science was compatible with "scientific socialism," Marxism-Leninism, and all that crap. Which is just what I've been saying about why the Left over here is quite happy with evolution, and very unhappy with Judeo-Christian ethics. The first is entirely compatible with their worldview and political objectives, and the latter isn't.
As I keep saying, you just can't escape the intellectual correlates of various ideas.
The real war on America is not being waged by a few "fundamentalists." They really have little power. The war is being waged relentlessly by cultural Marxists who control the media, almost all our higher education system, and much of the public schools.


1,122 posted on 07/28/2006 7:37:49 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Coyoteman
Heinlien was a sci fi author, not a theologist. Therefore his "truism" is truly opinion. He has no practical pastoral experience. As yet I have not seen a church involved in ....

"subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics."

I'll keep looking, though.

1,200 posted on 07/29/2006 9:46:24 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Don't you wish there were a knob on the computer to turn up the intelligence?)
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