[skeeter]

I'll tell you something else, maybe you like the idea of your kids or grandkids working in poultry slaughter houses, doing roofing work, or lawn maintenance, and working their way up to a crappy job from there, but not me. I'm working so that my kids will NOT do those jobs...I already did it for them.

I did those jobs. Ya gotta start somewhere, Luis.

Who knows, it might do your kids good to spend a few years laying carpet or concrete finishing. What better way to motivate them to seek a better life?

[Luis Gonzalez]

My kids will not lay carpet, I'll let your kids lay the carpet in my kid's houses.

"Starting" means crap, employers can't rely on people who view their jobs as simply something to do until you graduate.