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To: Virginia-American
"Consider Constantine, he was a grotesque tyrant, put off being baptized until he was on his deathbed, now he's a saint."

Just because the Catholic church calls someone a saint, doesn't necessarily make them one. On the other hand, just because you call someone a grotesque tyrant, doesn't necessarily make him one either.

God decides whether he was a saint or not. Water, Baptism doesn't save you. And deathbed baptisms were apparently common in the 4th century.

882 posted on 07/22/2006 11:44:42 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

One minor correction: at that time there was no Catholic or Orthodox or Protestant - just Christians and heretics.


883 posted on 07/22/2006 11:50:22 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: DannyTN
Just because the Catholic church calls someone a saint, doesn't necessarily make them one

And, likewise, just because the catholic church says a just morality can only arise from the bible, doesn't necessarily make that true, either.

891 posted on 07/23/2006 1:57:04 AM PDT by donh
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