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To: metmom
Hey, they're trying to force their ideology on the kids.

I think the current battle is ID is being falsely promoted into the schools as science, when it is actually creation lite.

Who is it that is trying to force their ideology on the kids?


What is intelligent design?

It's the missing link between creationism and religious instruction masquerading as biology.

Bruce Bower, Science News, vol. 168 (Nos 26 & 27), 2006, p. 414:


300 posted on 05/23/2006 8:28:28 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
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To: Coyoteman; bboop
It's his opinion.

There is a lot of misinformation in that article.

It's the missing link between creationism and religious instruction masquerading as biology. Yes, class, Ms. Cleary sees a place for missing links after all, and it's not pretty.

Creationism takes a literal view of the Bible, so it holds that the Earth and all its creatures were created in one fell, divine swoop 6,000 years ago. Fair enough, but that's a hard sell as must-have information in a sophomore biology course.

Enter intelligent design (ID), an idea that tries to make creationism palatable to adults on school boards who have no scientific training or interests but have the power to tell adults who do have scientific training and interests how to teach science.

Creationism does not necessarily take this view;Creationism takes a literal view of the Bible, so it holds that the Earth and all its creatures were created in one fell, divine swoop 6,000 years ago.

Some agree with that and some don't. He is obviously pro-evo and anti-anything else. His attempts to lump in ID with creation is just what we see here on these threads regularly. ID is not equivalent to creationism, no matter how many times the evolutionists claim it is. IIRC bboop stated it quite clearly recently on another thread that the theory behind ID is that some aspects of the universe show signs of intelligent design which is not the same as the Biblical creation account. Although most evolutionists vehemently disagree, the understanding I have of ID is that it does not preclude evolution at all. All it states is that it got started somehow, and occasionally needed a bump along, but makes no statement about who the designer is or was. In spite of the fact that most IDers I've seen state this, the evolutionists still like to insist that ID is creation in disguise. There is no doubt that ID helps the creation cause but ID in the form that I originally read about it as, is not creation.

305 posted on 05/23/2006 8:56:03 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Coyoteman
"Biology" masquerades as biology. At work in the manufactured gullies that draw off the parking lot overflow and direct it into the catch basin there is eight inch size crushed rock. It's full of fool's gold. Nobody notices it, I see, except me.

Fool's gold -- iron pyrite, often found in proximity to real gold. And there -- a parking lot full of employed persons, earning their gold-equivalent.

Simple biology. In masquerade. Call Charles Lydell.

370 posted on 05/24/2006 6:43:06 PM PDT by bvw
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