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To: donh
The oft-repeated theory that he was carrying out Jesus's unfinished work, by eliminating the Jews? Yea, that probably had nothing whatever to do with his extremely catholic upbringing.

It most certainly did not. Never did the Church teach that killing Jews was Christ's work. If you want to claim otherwise, please provide a source.

Or do you mean the influence of the catholic priests the holy see permitted, throughout the war, to accompany the SS troops on their ghetto raids?

Please substantiate this claim. I'm not about to take your word for it.

Or maybe you are referring to Hitler's oft quoted favorite passage--Matthew 27:25. Which, I guess, comes from the Koran.

St. Matthew is no more responsible for Hitler twisting his Gospel than is Darwin responsible for Hitler twisting his theory.

738 posted on 05/13/2006 2:31:12 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
It most certainly did not. Never did the Church teach that killing Jews was Christ's work.

Indeed not, mustn't get the churches' hands dirty--just pass them on the secular authorities who will be happy to complete the job, in return for, say, a free pass into heaven...as they did at the beginning of the 1st crusade against the infidels--any old infidels seemed to do.

St. Matthew is no more responsible for Hitler twisting his Gospel than is Darwin responsible for Hitler twisting his theory.

I believe I disagree, Mathhew and John had a distinct agenda that colored their choice of rhetoric, because one of the functions of the bible was to undercut the Orthodox hebrew religion, the chief source of converts to christianity. Thereby initiating the practice of using biblical passages to condemn jews--as happened again and again on easter sunday, when the story of the passion of christ repeatedly sparked pograms throughout the Middle Ages. Unless, of course, said jew was sephardic, and trying to pass as christian, than the Society of Jesus was allowed to murder them directly, after a prescribed amount of Holy torture.

794 posted on 05/13/2006 7:24:01 PM PDT by donh
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To: curiosity
The oft-repeated theory that he was carrying out Jesus's unfinished work, by eliminating the Jews? Yea, that probably had nothing whatever to do with his extremely catholic upbringing.

It most certainly did not.

It most certainly did.

Hitler Praying

Hitler leaving the Marine Church in Wilhelmshaven

Hitler's rendition of Mary with Child

The cross Hitler had placed in front of his lodge at Eagle's Nest

Nazi school poster, the inscription reads" "When you see a cross, remember the gruesome murder of the Jews on Golgotha..."

Never did the Church teach that killing Jews was Christ's work. If you want to claim otherwise, please provide a source.

You, regarding the Spanish Inquisition, and sephardic jews who were pretending to be Catholics.

Or do you mean the influence of the catholic priests the holy see permitted, throughout the war, to accompany the SS troops on their ghetto raids?

Please substantiate this claim. I'm not about to take your word for it.

Chaplain with machine gun unit

Brown Shirt army unit attending mass

Nazi Chaplain's visor

Why is this so hard to believe? Do you have access to some secret document in which the Pope excommunicated Hitler, or excommunicating any priests that accompanied Nazi troops? You think there's something extraordinary about priests accompanying army units of Christian countries into battle?

848 posted on 05/13/2006 9:14:27 PM PDT by donh
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