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To: CarolinaGuitarman

The Root of All Evil?

Episode 1: The God Delusion | Episode 2: The Virus of Faith

How is it, asks [arch-darwinist] Richard Dawkins, that despite science having exposed old religious myths, militant faith is back on the march? The mechanism for perpetuating beliefs that Dawkins describes as leading to murderous intolerance, is by imposing religion on children who are too inexperienced to judge it for themselves

We wouldn't categorise children according to their parents' political stance, says Dawkins, since they are too young to make up their minds about such matters. But we segregate them in sectarian religious schools, where they are taught superstitions drawn from ancient scriptures of dubious origin, which promote a 'contradictory and poisonous system of morals'.

From generation to generation

[Arch-darwinist]Dawkins compares this to a virus, which infects the young and is passed down the generations. Visiting an ultra-orthodox Jewish school, he describes the British-born headteacher Rabbi Gluck's Yiddish accent as testament to the isolation of his community. Gluck says that it's important for members of minorities to have the space to express their own beliefs and traditions. He describes science as one tradition, and Judaism as another. His students are taught about evolution and if only a minority end up believing in it, he says, this is not out of ignorance.

The number of faith schools is increasing. More than half the Government's proposed City Academies will be run by religious organisations and there's a growing number of private evangelical Christian schools. ACE – Accelerated Christian Education – has developed a curriculum which includes a mention of God or Jesus on every page of its science text book. The head of a school which uses this material argues that if there were no lawgiver, there would be no reason to see rape and murder as wrong.

Hellfire and damnation

Transmitting such a 'warped reality' to young people, says [arch-darwinist] Dawkins, amounts to indoctrination. Children are uniquely vulnerable and if they fail to question and shake off such superstition, they remain in a state of perpetual infancy. He talks to a woman brought up in a strict Christian sect who describes the terror of eternal damnation, which dominated her childhood, as a form of abuse.

Hellhouse movies are a new growth industry in the USA today. Graphically filmed, they demonise abortion and homosexuality with the explicit aim of scaring the viewers. Pastor Keenan Roberts explains that the aim is 'to leave an indelible impression on their lives that sin destroys … and Jesus saves'. The result, says [arch-darwinist] Dawkins, is a mindset which can justify the murder of a doctor who carries out abortions on the grounds that he is destroying a being created in God's image!

Innate morality

Physicist and Nobel prizewinner [arch-darwinist] Stephen Weinberg describes religion as an insult to human dignity. 'Without it,' he says, 'you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion.' [Arch-darwinist] Dawkins agrees. It is more moral, he says, to do good for its own sake than out of fear. Morality, he says, is older than religion, and kindness and generosity are innate in human beings, as they are in other social animals. The irony is that science recognises the majesty and complexity of the universe while religions lead to easy, closed answers.

Is there no more than just this life? asks [arch-darwinist] Richard Dawkins. How much more do you want? We are lucky to be here, he says, and we should make the most of our time on this world.

(My point in posting this left wing atheist mind manure isn't to start a debate on the points raised, but to call attention to the fact that darwinists constantly make faith claims masquerading as science. But darwinist faith claims are blessed, subsidized, and enforced by the state.)

834 posted on 04/28/2006 9:22:00 PM PDT by JCEccles (Kitzmiller Syndrome: anger and paranoia that someone is harboring critical thoughts about darwinism.)
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To: JCEccles
Yes, we already know Dawkins doesn't like religion.

So?
835 posted on 04/28/2006 9:25:06 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: JCEccles
"My point in posting this left wing atheist mind manure isn't to start a debate on the points raised,..."

Because you would lose...

"but to call attention to the fact that darwinists constantly make faith claims masquerading as science."

Sorry, Dawkins was talking philosophy, not science. It's possible for people, scientists, to hold positions that are outside of science.

"But darwinist faith claims are blessed, subsidized, and enforced by the state."

Utter crap.
838 posted on 04/28/2006 9:27:38 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: JCEccles
that darwinists constantly make faith claims masquerading as science

Evolutionary scientists (whom you mistakenly refer to as "darwinists") make claims based on scientific data and well-supported theory.

You appear to be making claims based on religious doctrine and belief.

841 posted on 04/28/2006 9:32:07 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: JCEccles
Thanks for that insight into one of the front men for evo.

It does seem that the FR evos do take some talking points from Dawkins here and there.

IMO that is the point and that is the fact.., Jack

Wolf
843 posted on 04/28/2006 9:33:13 PM PDT by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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