[WildHorseCrash]

There was nothing in what you posted that negated what I stated to jennyp.

Except for the part where you've posited that the basis of conservative thought is the source of human rights, rather than the fact of their existence.

[pby]

"You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the universe." - John Adams

The Source and existence of our rights are an unbreakably linked...You can't separate the two.

Certainly, John Adams, Sam Adams, John Hancock, John Morton, Robert Treat Paine, Benjamin Rush, Roger Sherman, Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon and other signers thought so.

Can you name a founder that did not attribute the existence of our rights to God (with primary source documentation)?