[Gumlegs]

M: No, just one ID somewhere doing one thing does the trick in knocking down your use of Occam.

CG: Nonsense. Nobody is saying that an intelligent designer doesn't exist (man). That in NO way is evidence that Man is the intelligent designer of the universe. There is simply no evidence for a designer of the universe, or of life as we see it on Earth, that isn't easier explained with natural means.

M: He doesn't have to create the Universe ~ just one new lifeform is sufficient, and it doesn't even have to be all that different ...

This appears to be Fester's oft-stated (and oft-denied) formulation that anything anywhere intelligently designed by anyone is evidence that everything everywhere was intelligently designed.

Fester tells me that's not what he means, but his posts can be somewhat murky. Mmuawiyah, on the other hand, seems to mean exactly that. Perhaps they can get together and sort it out for us.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

They both are epistemological subjectivists/relativists too.

As I told them, post-modernism isn't my bag.

[muawiyah]

No ~ you got it wrong. If you claim your argument has universal application, all I have to do is find a single exception and your argument is garbage.

That's simple logic.

Claim something less than universality and you're OK.

I certainly never claim universality on anything ~