[ml1954]

Great Debate among evolutionists, creationists and intelligent designers.

The only place this debate is Great is in the minds of the creationists and intelligent designers. There is no debate among 99+% of scientists. And there is no debate between creationists/intelligent designers and that 99+% of scientists. The creationists/intelligent designers are just trying to create the illusion there's a debate, in the minds of an uninformed public, for political purposes, to advance their religious beliefs. And that is the Dove PA case in a nutshell.

[muawiyah]

There's currently a debate between "scientific true believers" and "noncommital scientists".

J. Craig Venter has proposed creating an artificial lifeform into which we would insert genes found in viruses in the oceans (by the tens, if not hundreds, of millions, to see what they do).

Now that's "noncommital".

There are many people outside the three realms who'd just like to see how the whole machine works ~ and forget about this common origin stuff ~ it's gumming everything up and blinding us to the possibilities of real research.

[William Terrell]

The only place this debate is Great is in the minds of the creationists and intelligent designers. There is no debate among 99+% of scientists. And there is no debate between creationists/intelligent designers and that 99+% of scientists. The creationists/intelligent designers are just trying to create the illusion there's a debate, in the minds of an uninformed public, for political purposes, to advance their religious beliefs.

Ah, so, of course, you 99% of the scientists would be willing to stipulate to an intelligent designer as well as anything, as the genisis of life on Earth, then.