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To: PatrickHenry; All
theory of evolution

There is that word again. Evolution is just someone's idea, not a fact.

Therefore, I do not see why people get all riled up about it, it means nothing. Believe me, people, there are many more questions than evolution will ever be able to answer.

179 posted on 04/05/2006 1:10:45 PM PDT by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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To: yellowdoghunter
" There is that word again. Evolution is just someone's idea, not a fact."

Evolution is both a fact and a theory. Your ignorance of scientific terminology and method is no excuse for your posts.

BTW, neither facts OR theories are ever proven 100%. Proof is for math and whiskey. Facts can be overturned by new data just as theories can. Laws can also be overturned. Science doesn't deal in absolute certainty.
183 posted on 04/05/2006 1:13:47 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("Things are not what they always seem.")
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To: yellowdoghunter
There is that word again [theory]. Evolution is just someone's idea, not a fact.

By your logic Music Theory means that music is "just someone's idea" and it must not exist.

245 posted on 04/05/2006 1:42:14 PM PDT by Condorman (Prefer infinitely the company of those seeking the truth to those who believe they have found it.)
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To: yellowdoghunter
theory of evolution

There is that word again. Evolution is just someone's idea, not a fact.

Evolution is both a fact (change takes place) and a theory (a mechanism proposed to account for that change).

And it is not "just someone's idea" but a cornerstone for many sciences, tested and refined for 150 years.

See the following (also read post #52, back upthread):

From an NSF abstract:

As with all scientific knowledge, a theory can be refined or even replaced by an alternative theory in light of new and compelling evidence. The geocentric theory that the sun revolves around the earth was replaced by the heliocentric theory of the earth's rotation on its axis and revolution around the sun. However, ideas are not referred to as "theories" in science unless they are supported by bodies of evidence that make their subsequent abandonment very unlikely. When a theory is supported by as much evidence as evolution, it is held with a very high degree of confidence.

In science, the word "hypothesis" conveys the tentativeness inherent in the common use of the word "theory.' A hypothesis is a testable statement about the natural world. Through experiment and observation, hypotheses can be supported or rejected. At the earliest level of understanding, hypotheses can be used to construct more complex inferences and explanations. Like "theory," the word "fact" has a different meaning in science than it does in common usage. A scientific fact is an observation that has been confirmed over and over. However, observations are gathered by our senses, which can never be trusted entirely. Observations also can change with better technologies or with better ways of looking at data. For example, it was held as a scientific fact for many years that human cells have 24 pairs of chromosomes, until improved techniques of microscopy revealed that they actually have 23. Ironically, facts in science often are more susceptible to change than theories, which is one reason why the word "fact" is not much used in science.

Finally, "laws" in science are typically descriptions of how the physical world behaves under certain circumstances. For example, the laws of motion describe how objects move when subjected to certain forces. These laws can be very useful in supporting hypotheses and theories, but like all elements of science they can be altered with new information and observations.

Those who oppose the teaching of evolution often say that evolution should be taught as a "theory, not as a fact." This statement confuses the common use of these words with the scientific use. In science, theories do not turn into facts through the accumulation of evidence. Rather, theories are the end points of science. They are understandings that develop from extensive observation, experimentation, and creative reflection. They incorporate a large body of scientific facts, laws, tested hypotheses, and logical inferences. In this sense, evolution is one of the strongest and most useful scientific theories we have.

Modified from RadioAstronomers's post #27 on another thread.


459 posted on 04/05/2006 6:10:21 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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