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Newly found species fills evolutionary gap between fish and land animals
EurekAlert (AAAS) ^ | 05 April 2006 | Staff

Posted on 04/05/2006 10:32:31 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: Thatcherite

So you found under the gooseberry bush?...I know those who say they were found in the cabbage patch...that cabbage patch 'theory' of where babies come from, must have been a truly popular 'theory', noting the popularity of the Cabbage Patch line of dolls, that made its creator quite rich...

Ah, so many 'theories' of where babies come from...


1,421 posted on 04/11/2006 9:42:31 AM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: Sun; VadeRetro
You CLAIM that I said the above, but I never did. Another poster did.

Apologies, Sun. Yet another demonstration that creationist views are so inane that they are beyond parody. I missed the quotes round VR's humorous mocking retort to you and thought that you were making a point in all seriousness.

What I cannot make out in all of this is whether or not you are really so dunderheaded that you believe that Darwin didn't know that mammals are multi-cellular, when the nature of cells had been common knowledge amongst biologists for hundreds of years before the voyage of the Beagle. In fact reviewing the thread I think the time may now be ripe to call "Loki Troll", or "No Kin to Monkeys".

1,422 posted on 04/11/2006 9:43:24 AM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm Pat Henry, I'm the real Pat Henry, All the other Pat Henry's are just imitators...)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
I have been rather busy with a mom and dad in the hospital... car accident... So, where were we...

I accepted Evolution when I accepted change? NO, I did not. Change is not evolution.

Sorry about your dads accident. Hope he is doing well.

Evolution is defined as ongoing change. Darwin did not use the term evolution. He used the terms change and differences. Evolution is a later term to include both. Evolution is defined as ongoing change. Change and differences (evolution) are the facts that Darwin observed.

Web Definition; In the life sciences, evolution is a change in the traits of living organisms over generations, including the emergence of new species. Since the development of modern genetics in the 1940s, evolution has been defined more specifically as a change in the frequency of alleles in a population from one generation to the next. In other fields evolution is used more generally to refer to any process of change over time.

I suggest you reread Darwin' Origin of the Species.

1,423 posted on 04/11/2006 10:09:29 AM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Thatcherite
What I cannot make out in all of this is whether or not you are really so dunderheaded that you believe that Darwin didn't know that mammals are multi-cellular ...

I always assumed that there was some limit on how much retardation someone could exhibit, yet still manage to operate a computer sufficiently to post on a website. Now I'm starting to wonder.

1,424 posted on 04/11/2006 10:19:08 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: Thatcherite
Yet another demonstration that creationist views are so inane that they are beyond parody.

I thought we were doing rather well.

1,425 posted on 04/11/2006 10:19:14 AM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: Thatcherite
One of the times you don't use the </sarcasm> tag is when you're sure most people WILL get the irony but one or two key people who are wearing just the right blinders won't.
1,426 posted on 04/11/2006 12:02:26 PM PDT by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: andysandmikesmom
Ah, so many 'theories' of where babies come from...

It appears that the Gooseberry Bush schtick betrays my Limey origins.

1,427 posted on 04/11/2006 1:08:09 PM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm Pat Henry, I'm the real Pat Henry, All the other Pat Henry's are just imitators...)
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To: VadeRetro
"... Why is today different from exactly like every other day?"
1,428 posted on 04/11/2006 1:11:15 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs
Patrick has this "poop head" theory...
1,429 posted on 04/11/2006 1:43:21 PM PDT by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: Thatcherite

What a really great, humorous link, explaining where babies come from...my favorite, and its probably true for me and the hubby...Babies?..."They're found in beer"....me and the hubby have a special extra-cirriculur activity that we enjoy quite a bit...sampling beer from all the various micro-breweries here in the Pacific Northwest...tho we have grown cabbages, we prefer to drink beer...

Some of those 'theories' of where babies come from are hysterical...thanks for providing me with my good hearty laugh of the day...


1,430 posted on 04/11/2006 3:57:32 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: betty boop; King Prout; grey_whiskers; Alamo-Girl; marron; hosepipe; TXnMA; gobucks

One of the many problems HUMAN beings must deal with is that at no time is it possible for us the know "what something IS'.

We can only characterize. We cannot define the totality of anything.

We can only compare what we know of one thing to another thing.

When God Says "Let there be Light".

We automatically think He was speaking of the sun.

He said LIGHT.

We still do not know what LIGHT is.

Does that mean God Lied???

God knows everthing completely. When He speaks of the totality of something we have no way to Compare His statement to anything else we know.

Jesus said, "I am the Truth......"
We have been asking the same question since Pilot asked it. Are we closer to an answer or do we just say, "He lied"?

I would be most careful when claiming God "Lied". You and I don't know the whole story YET. We must still compare.


1,431 posted on 04/11/2006 4:24:29 PM PDT by Slingshot
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To: Slingshot

That is why science only deals with physical evidence and empirical methods. Following the evidence has been very useful for several centuries. It does not answer moral or theological questions, but it does result in a steady accumulation of knowledge.


1,432 posted on 04/11/2006 5:01:28 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: Slingshot

Thank you so much for engaging meditations and insights!


1,433 posted on 04/11/2006 10:39:38 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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Placemarker


1,434 posted on 04/12/2006 6:42:20 AM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Right Wing Professor

More importantly, do you think that Darwin knew that there was TRILLIONS of cells? Of course, he didn't, but did he even believe that there could be hundreds of cells. Nope.

He believed in evolution based on erroneous "facts", and most of the scientists are still believing in that THEORY today.

It's sad that students are wasting their time with this antiquated theory.


1,435 posted on 04/12/2006 6:53:58 AM PDT by Sun (Truth and honesty kicks butts.)
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To: Sun

"More importantly, do you think that Darwin knew that there was TRILLIONS of cells? Of course, he didn't, but did he even believe that there could be hundreds of cells. Nope."

Are you saying that Darwin thought the body was made of one big cell? Or are you saying that Darwin didn't know of the 200-300 different types of cells that make up the body?

You have been less than clear on this.


1,436 posted on 04/12/2006 6:58:34 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: Sun
More importantly, do you think that Darwin knew that there was TRILLIONS of cells? Of course, he didn't, but did he even believe that there could be hundreds of cells. Nope.

So what? The theory of eovlution does not require the existence of cells. It requires heritability, variability, and natural selection.

By the way, are you going to acknowledge you misrepresented that webpage?

1,437 posted on 04/12/2006 7:33:37 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor

Misrepresenting implies conscious intent. We have been tweaking Mr. Sun for a while, and I honestly don't think he is capable of understanding the problem. Perhaps English is not his first language.


1,438 posted on 04/12/2006 7:36:46 AM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; Sun
Well thanks for that I guess.

It looks like you put some thought into it especially that 2nd to last paragraph. Is this a powerful analogy for your argument in your mind?

I am glad the scientific method has given you so much guidance solace and aid throughout all of these years.

What do you think Sun? Do we have one for the archives?

THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON EVOLUTIONISM (Actual debate posts)

Wolf
1,439 posted on 04/12/2006 8:41:18 AM PDT by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf
"Well thanks for that I guess.... I am glad the scientific method has given you so much guidance solace and aid throughout all of these years."


Obviously you have no answer to what I said. I should have known I was wasting my time with you, Mordo. :)
1,440 posted on 04/12/2006 8:43:58 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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