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Gov. Bush suggests that some fellow Republicans are misusing the issue for short-term political gain. Right on, Jeb!
1 posted on 04/05/2006 5:50:43 AM PDT by zook
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To: zook

It's not hard to understand Jebie illegal or legal see it;s easy.


139 posted on 04/05/2006 7:47:09 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: zook
Jeb can kiss goodbye to any future political aspirations for anyone with the surname "Bush", at least in the Republican party.

There is nothing "hateful" about requiring people who come here to follow our laws.

There is everything "hateful" about politicians who refuse to listen to the public on an issue of compelling national public interest, pandering to the exploiters of cheap foreign labor, cozening up to the "President" of a third rate third world rathole which seeks to annex part of America incrementally and conspires to violate our borders,
and granting amnesty to individuals who pushed their way ahead of legal immigrants who are following our laws in attempting to gain entry to the United States in accordance with our laws.

One of the primary responsibilities of an political entity which aspires to the title of "Nation" is to protect its borders. A responsibility which apparently is beyond the grasp of the good governor, his wife, and the governor's brother.

If "Jeb" and wife don't like - tough. They'll live with the consequences, one way or the other.
145 posted on 04/05/2006 7:50:56 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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How can anyone read this without feeling the urge to projectile vomit?


149 posted on 04/05/2006 7:53:03 AM PDT by samcgwire (samcgwire was or was not here today, depending on why you want to know.)
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To: zook

It's hurtful to me when 12-20 million illegal aliens invade America and dopes like Jeb and his brother encourage them to keep on invading. George Bush could have enforced our borders BUT HE CHOSE NOT TO.

I live in FL so have voted for both since the Democrats are worse. But these brothers are gated community, country club republicans all the way when it comes to illegal aliens


167 posted on 04/05/2006 8:01:14 AM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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Oh FGS Jeb - I thought better of you. The subject is ILLEGAL VS LEGAL. And it would be best not to bring your wife into this considering that she has disregarded Customs laws in the past so we already know how she feels about US laws. Just govern - you are doing a decent job of that.


202 posted on 04/05/2006 8:24:17 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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Accusing politicians of "pounding their chests" on immigration for short-term political gain, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday that the tone of the debate had been "hurtful" to him and his Mexican-born wife, Columba.

And my wife is Russian born. She and I both hate illegal aliens. If we had to file paperwork and play by the rules, let THEM play by the damn rules and who cares who's feelings get hurt !

214 posted on 04/05/2006 8:33:45 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Every man must be tempted, sometimes,to hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.)
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Can you say 'pubbie meltdown' ?


BUMP

232 posted on 04/05/2006 8:40:55 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Keep Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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"My wife came here legally, but it hurts her just as it hurts me when people give the perception that all immigrants are bad,"



It appears the Gov Bush is just as ignorant as the Pres Bush in telling immigrants from illegal aliens. My two daughters are LEGAL immigrants too, Jeb. I have no problem with penalizing those who stole their way into America.


265 posted on 04/05/2006 8:53:56 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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Bush, the younger brother of President Bush, reserved some of his sharpest criticism for conservatives in his own Republican Party, calling it "just plain wrong" to charge illegal immigrants with a felony, as a provision passed by the Republican-led House would do.

Jeb Bush is "Just Plain Wrong" for America. Let him run for president of Mexico as that is clearly where his allegiance lays.

275 posted on 04/05/2006 8:59:52 AM PDT by Godebert
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"My wife came here legally, but it hurts her just as it hurts me when people give the perception that all immigrants are bad," the Florida governor wrote in an e-mail exchange with The Times.

Well, Governor, it is YOU that is spewing that message, not us.

Our language is quite precise: We always refer to 'illegal aliens', whereas your crowd plays semantic games that are only designed to make us look bad and to lump all immigrants together into one undesirable pot!

Jeb, you're a hypocrite.

281 posted on 04/05/2006 9:01:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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We appreciate your outing yourself, Jeb. You've saved us a lot of trouble and grief.

Now we know to look for someone else when it comes time to pick a GOP candidate for President!

286 posted on 04/05/2006 9:04:08 AM PDT by Gritty (Granting citizenship to people here illegally is not just amnesty, it's anarchy– Gov. Schwarzenneger)
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Jeb is just another pandering globalist who did not ask those he swore an oath to represent, those being American citizens, if they wanted mass invasion and billions in expense due to his globalist agenda. He swore an oath to uphold the laws of the United States, now all he wants to do is muddy the waters of his betrayal. That betrayal being to kill the nation state in favor of some one world utopia that will be hell on earth.

It really pays to guilt Americans by talking about their "duty" to share their wealth and homeland by turning their nation into a flop house of Balkanized soup. There is no such "duty" enumerated in the Constitution. We can be as self protective as we want to be and without guilt.
It falls on the people to protect their nation state, constitution, bill of rights, and freedom from usurpers whose desire it is to destroy them.
292 posted on 04/05/2006 9:12:07 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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I don't know if you made it to the later parts of this thread, but if you're not here yet, the thread could use some graphics/links of those who were being "hurtful".

That word makes me want to puke.

Globalist crap does too.


317 posted on 04/05/2006 9:40:47 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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Gee, I wonder how the Nina Burleighs over on our daily-embarrassment picturelicking thread are going to handle this latest Bush nonsense?

bushdolebushdolebushdolebushdole - end it, Lord!

319 posted on 04/05/2006 9:42:15 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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The globalist gene appears to be very strong in the Bush family.

Ole' Jeb is just repeating the family mantra here.


336 posted on 04/05/2006 9:57:53 AM PDT by Dazedcat
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"Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday that the tone of the debate had been "hurtful" to him and his Mexican-born wife, Columba."

What's hurtful to me, Jebbie-boy, is cheap politicians like you pandering to illegals. How about a little consideration for the rest of us--you know, those of us here in fly-over country who don't break the law, pay taxes, and in the past voted for people like you we thought might be conservative.

Don't even think about running for president. We've had two Bushes too many.


368 posted on 04/05/2006 10:21:18 AM PDT by reelfoot
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Accusing politicians of "pounding their chests" on immigration for short-term political gain,

Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Tuesday that the tone of the debate had been "hurtful" to him and his Mexican-born wife, Columba.

I'm sorry he feels that way.

What I find hurtful is an ignorant clod like Jeb, can not distinguish between
LEGAL and ILLegal, serving as the elected governor of one of our states.

What hurts me is that Jeb is so functionally inarticulate as to not be able to frame this correctly.

It's all about crime not squishy feelings.


384 posted on 04/05/2006 10:27:18 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in YHvH forever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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Frankly, the tone of what now passes as public "debate" in America today on almost every topic is, or should be, hurtful to most intelligent and informed citizens.

Instead of reasoned and respectful debate of ideas and principles, we see shouting, overtalking, personal attacks on character and motive, and little indication of clearly articulated positions on critical questions and principles for which previous American generations were willing to sacrifice their "lives, properties, and sacred honor."

How are current youth to understand what is meant by "a government of laws, not of men," of "Creator-endowed" life and liberty, and the means by which to preserve such fundamental principles if they hear no reasoned debate?

Previous administrations and Congresses, of both major Parties, as well as their appointed Judges, who began and perpetuated the process of ignoring well-established immigration laws and processes in America bear full responsibility for the serious and threatening situation we now face. It is time that the current leadership of both of the guilty Parties step up to the plate and, by their prompt action, demonstrate that America is, indeed, a nation of "laws," and that citizenship requires adherence to that principle.

If they need an example of a clearly articulated statement of principles and causes for action, they need look no further than their own Declaration of Independence. It stands as a fine example of reasoned argument on behalf of liberty!

414 posted on 04/05/2006 10:44:20 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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this is not an immigration debate. it's an ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION debate. I wish people would get that straight. no one is opposed to legal immigration.


428 posted on 04/05/2006 10:58:59 AM PDT by jw777
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There goes any political future for Jeb as far as I'm concerned--including replacing Katherine Harris in the Senate race.


439 posted on 04/05/2006 11:15:32 AM PDT by kms61
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