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To: CarolinaGuitarman
The origins of life are not part of the ToE.

Then your side is lying to children in school by pretending that it is and pretending further that you have a valid theory of abiogenesis, the "primordial soup" nonsense. Your side is also being awfully persnickidy about ID, given that you're admitting that you have no alternative to explain away the need for intellegent design for the first cells to form, let alone to explain the evolutionary leaps (i.e. the Cambrian explosion) since then.

If the Evos were honest and simply broadcast to everyone, "Sorry, but at the present time we have no valid theory of abiogenesis," the issue of teaching ID in school wouldn't even be on the table.

372 posted on 01/26/2006 6:43:26 PM PST by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: Buggman
"Then your side is lying to children in school by pretending that it is and pretending further that you have a valid theory of abiogenesis, the "primordial soup" nonsense."

No, you are just very ignorant. Abiogenesis is a theory that deals with the origins of life. Right now it is at a very early stage. Evolution is a theory that deals with how life changes over time. They are not the same thing.

"Your side is also being awfully persnickidy about ID, given that you're admitting that you have no alternative to explain away the need for intellegent design for the first cells to form, let alone to explain the evolutionary leaps (i.e. the Cambrian explosion) since then."

ID is a gutless claim for people who don't want to actually DO science. It's an argument from ignorance that explains absolutely NOTHING. That there are unanswered questions in abiogenesis and evolutionary theory does not mean that *God did it* is a valid answer to those questions.

"If the Evos were honest and simply broadcast to everyone, "Sorry, but at the present time we have no valid theory of abiogenesis," the issue of teaching ID in school wouldn't even be on the table."

If ID'ers were honest, they would admit they are creationists who have no evidence, no research, and no scientific explanations beyond "God did it".
378 posted on 01/26/2006 6:50:12 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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