[thomaswest]

Quoting: "The moral: Scientific theories themselves are value-neutral. It's the dominant philosophy of an age or a society that determines what good or evil will come out of new scientific discoveries."

I agree. It is very weird that IDers and creationists attach no moral values to the Germ Theory of Disease. Indeed, the GTOD overturned much more than the TOE. GTOD denied that illness was a product of God's displeasure and punishment, and stated that there were naturalistic causes (microbes and viruses). The church objections to the GTOD quickly lost traction; theology was readjusted quite fast! Indeed, the desire to go to a fancied heaven was quickly replaced by a desire to live longer--recognizing that this life is the only one we really know of.

ID faith and internal contradictions go hand-in-hand.

[Thatcherite]

Excellent point. I've never seen it put so well as that.

[Creationist]

I agree. It is very weird that IDers and creationists attach no moral values to the Germ Theory of Disease. Indeed, the GTOD overturned much more than the TOE. GTOD denied that illness was a product of God's displeasure and punishment, and stated that there were naturalistic causes (microbes and viruses). The church objections to the GTOD quickly lost traction; theology was readjusted quite fast! Indeed, the desire to go to a fancied heaven was quickly replaced by a desire to live longer--recognizing that this life is the only one we really know of.

Your understanding of the Bible is miscued. Disease is the product of the original sin by Adam and Eve. From sin comes death. We were designed by God to live forever originally, in the perfect environment that existed before the flood. Just because people want to live longer on earth does not make that wrong. It is how we live for God and the product of our lives that matters.