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What Are Creationists Afraid Of?
The New Individualist ^ | 1/2006 | Ed Hudgins

Posted on 01/26/2006 1:47:10 PM PST by jennyp

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To: Giant Conservative
Would you be willing to entertain the possibility that all of science is of divine design designed in such a way as to look as though it was totally undesigned, therefore making the designer look quite foolish countless times throughout evolutionary history?
941 posted on 01/28/2006 9:07:17 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke

Isn't science innately logical, and therefor something that would reflect quite well on the nature of its design?


942 posted on 01/28/2006 9:10:01 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: Giant Conservative

I am a believer in the Bible and therefor I do believe in science. But to answer the question 6000-12000 years.


943 posted on 01/28/2006 9:11:07 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Creationist

Do you believe that all humankind is directly descended from the man and the woman spoken of in the Genesis stories?


944 posted on 01/28/2006 9:14:02 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: whattajoke
This thread has become surreal placemarker.
945 posted on 01/28/2006 9:15:02 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke

computer tells you are big synonymous words as well. They are real words. I use them to keep up with the pact, being a smartie pants without degrading.


946 posted on 01/28/2006 9:15:05 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Stultis
See, appropriately enough at Cafe Hayek, Smith and Darwin.

What a delightful blog that is!

947 posted on 01/28/2006 9:15:05 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: Giant Conservative

Yes. Do you believe you are a scion from a monkey or sort?


948 posted on 01/28/2006 9:16:33 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Creationist
"Scion from a monkey"...no, I don't.

I believe that humankind is distinct from monkeykind.

949 posted on 01/28/2006 9:17:50 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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To: Creationist

You refuse to accept the fact that the earth is older than 6-12K years.

Attempting to be a "smartie pants" will not work in your case, I'm afraid.


950 posted on 01/28/2006 9:18:04 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: whattajoke

Isn't surreality the norm in crevo debates?


951 posted on 01/28/2006 9:18:53 PM PST by Giant Conservative
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Do you believe you are a scion from a monkey or sort?

Say what? Is this secret code or something?
952 posted on 01/28/2006 9:20:10 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: jennyp

This article has zero substance. I can summarize it in two sentences: “Morals don’t have to come from God, and in fact they don’t. They come from man.” It doesn’t tell us anything.

Hudgins presumes to answer the most difficult problem in all of moral philosophy but fails to include a description of his answer. He rambles a bit about “rational capacity” and such, but gives not a speck of substance describing any basis for absolute morality independent of divine command.


953 posted on 01/28/2006 9:37:43 PM PST by reasonisfaith (The only way to become an atheist is by reverting to the infantile mindset.)
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To: whattajoke
Or is it you that refuses to believe that the earth is not older than 6000 to 12000 years. But I do not have to insult the person who believes otherwise in an attempt to facilitate my belief.
954 posted on 01/28/2006 9:52:47 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: whattajoke

scion = decendant or heir


955 posted on 01/28/2006 9:54:46 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: reasonisfaith
Morals don’t have to come from God, and in fact they don’t. They come from man.”

That is a true evolutionary believer statement.

Yet the moral code of our Constitution original judicial system all came from the Bible whether you accept it or not.

If evolution is true why would any one want to have morals? If it is survival of the fittest would not the strongest of our ancestors just killed any one who was a threat? Why would they care about lying? Would not it be easier just to lie and care less of the implications it had on the weaker? Why would adultery matter? We could be like dogs and not have a mate for life. What is wrong with envy? So a few people get robbed of possessions. Why should you have respect for your parents you are the evolutionary superior are you not?

Knowledge does not equal wisdom.
956 posted on 01/28/2006 10:06:15 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Creationist
I do not have to insult the person who believes [the earth is older than 6000 years] in an attempt to facilitate my belief.

Well, you've got me there. I do insult any sentient adult in 2006 that adheres to the beliefs of 2000 year old desert nomads, with regards to the creation of the earth. I apologize in advance.
957 posted on 01/28/2006 10:16:03 PM PST by whattajoke
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To: Giant Conservative
I believe that humankind is distinct from monkeykind.

So you believe that the monkey kind came from a reptile kind and that came from a amphibian kind which came from a fish kind which came from a multi-celled kind which came from a one celled kind which came from amino acid kind which came from the product of rain falling on rocks in a oxygen free atmosphere for millions and millions of years?

So you believe you are a scion from a rock? Which was formed due to an explosion over 15 billion years ago.

Would that not make us related to nuclear explosions?

Or if it is the big expansion instead of explosion would we be related to gas?

Oversimplification.
958 posted on 01/28/2006 10:18:08 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Creationist

You might have misunderstood me. My point was that the guy who wrote the article thinks morals don’t come from God.

I am a man of faith. I know God makes the rules. And I agree that the precious liberties associated with our Constitution originate from Christianity.


959 posted on 01/28/2006 10:21:36 PM PST by reasonisfaith (The only way to become an atheist is by reverting to the infantile mindset.)
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To: Strategerist
The Fossil Record.

95% of all fossils are marine invertebrates, particularly shellfish
Of the remaining 5%, 95% are algae and plant fossils (4.75%).
95% of the remaining 0.25% consists of the other invertebrates including insects (0.2375%).
The remaining 0.0125% includes all vertebrates, mostly fish. 95% of the few land vertebrates consist of less than one bone. (for example, only about 1200 dinosaur skeletons have been found.) 95% of the mammal fossils were deposited during the Ice Age.

The fossil record is best understood as the result of a marine cataclysm that utterly annihilated the continents and the land dwellers (Genesis 7:18-24 II Peter 3:6)
form: The Young Earth by John D. Morris
960 posted on 01/28/2006 10:27:35 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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