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What Are Creationists Afraid Of?
The New Individualist ^ | 1/2006 | Ed Hudgins

Posted on 01/26/2006 1:47:10 PM PST by jennyp

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To: Heartlander

I win, you lose. You can't handle I demolished your argument about Darwin, Mendel, and eugenics, so you bring in a completely irrelevant *point*. How pathetic. Now go away.


1,121 posted on 01/29/2006 4:30:43 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Westbrook
Nobody has addressed any of the philosophical points in my original post.

Maybe because it was nothing but a load of "argument from consequence", founded in faulty premises and having no bearing whatsoever on the validity of the theory of evolution.
1,122 posted on 01/29/2006 4:30:57 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Fine. Darwin and Mendel are in a room discussing various topics. They turn to you and ask, ‘Do you ‘believe’ that human consciousness ultimately comes from mindlessness?’
1,123 posted on 01/29/2006 4:31:52 PM PST by Heartlander (History is for the dogmatic fools to ignore and repeat - thus it is science.)
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To: Westbrook
Oh, and you will have to provide the link to the enumerated list of Creationist Lies, or is the existance of that list an Evolutionist Lie?

link & learn

1,124 posted on 01/29/2006 4:32:45 PM PST by Quark2005 (Divination is NOT science.)
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To: Heartlander

Idiot. When you decide to stick to the topic you originally pinged me on, then we can talk. Until then, go away loser.


1,125 posted on 01/29/2006 4:33:22 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Heartlander

Why are you trying to change the subject? Are you really too much of a coward to admit that you made a mistake?


1,126 posted on 01/29/2006 4:33:32 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: VadeRetro
So Adam really wasn't supposed to eat that fruit.

How about this one?


1,127 posted on 01/29/2006 4:34:02 PM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Dimensio; Heartlander

Yes, he IS that much of a coward.


1,128 posted on 01/29/2006 4:34:15 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
You’ve won the argument in your ‘mind’. Hey, now answer the stupid question - ‘Do you ‘believe’ that human consciousness ultimately comes from mindlessness?’
1,129 posted on 01/29/2006 4:36:33 PM PST by Heartlander (History is for the dogmatic fools to ignore and repeat - thus it is science.)
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To: Heartlander

I said go away, or stick to the topic, moron.


1,130 posted on 01/29/2006 4:37:21 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Dimensio
When confronted with facts that you could not counter you retreated into religious preaching.

You too can do battle in this fashion: Verses at random : Whole book, Proverbs, Psalms, Ecclesiasticus or Gospels. Make a choice in the first selection box, then keep hitting "refresh" to find the right verse.

1,131 posted on 01/29/2006 4:38:00 PM PST by PatrickHenry (True conservatives revere Adam Smith, Charles Darwin, and the Founding Fathers.)
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To: Coyoteman
If it's growing in the woods I leave it there.
1,132 posted on 01/29/2006 4:44:20 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Dimensio

I’ve now been called an idiot and a loser. Your friend isn’t being a very good agnostic.


1,133 posted on 01/29/2006 4:44:56 PM PST by Heartlander (History is for the dogmatic fools to ignore and repeat - thus it is science.)
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To: All; anyone

Does any person ‘believe’ that human consciousness ultimately comes from mindlessness?


1,134 posted on 01/29/2006 4:48:42 PM PST by Heartlander (History is for the dogmatic fools to ignore and repeat - thus it is science.)
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To: Heartlander
Does any person ‘believe’ that human consciousness ultimately comes from mindlessness?

I categorically do not believe that human consciousness ultimately comes from mindlessness.

We are expressions of his consciousness and his conscious life-force.

Wolf
1,135 posted on 01/29/2006 4:52:41 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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1,136 posted on 01/29/2006 4:55:20 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: RunningWolf
I’m curious, how could human consciousness be a subset of mindlessness? If Neo-Darwinian principles are true than they should apply to a mindless and undirected universe.

There cannot be any direction or goal. Even morality must be made up in the human mind and does not exist elsewhere - beauty and design are only constructs in our mind and the human mind can not be designed by or for any purpose or reason according to Darwinism.

1,137 posted on 01/29/2006 5:08:14 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: PatrickHenry
I think this snippet is a little better for that quote:
The woman ... suddenly loudly exclaimed, 'my goodness, when I hear a man read scripture, it makes me HOT!'. I was startled, and I calibrated this experience to some other Sunday afternoon experiences I recalled.

1,138 posted on 01/29/2006 5:08:45 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: your mind)
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To: Dimensio
Maybe because it was nothing but a load of "argument from consequence", founded in faulty premises and having no bearing whatsoever on the validity of the theory of evolution.

Really?

Doesn't the following come close to characterizing fundamental Evolutionist/Materialist premises?

Does this not give rise to a hedonistic or nihilistic response? Since, when you die you are just so much compost, then the best we can hope for is a life of self-gratification and a painless extinction.

1,139 posted on 01/29/2006 5:10:54 PM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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To: Westbrook
"Everything came from nothing out of nowhere for no apparent reason."

Nothing to do with evolution.

"Life is just a curious side-effect of an unknowing, uncaring cosmos."

Nothing to do with evolution.
1,140 posted on 01/29/2006 5:12:46 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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