Posted on 01/22/2006 11:35:40 AM PST by LouAvul
SAFETY HARBOR, Florida (AP) -- Terri Schiavo's former husband has married his longtime girlfriend, friends and family members say.
Michael Schiavo and his longtime girlfriend, Jodi Centonze, were wed Saturday at a church in Florida. The bride's brother says it was a very emotional ceremony.
Schiavo's former wife, Terri, had suffered severe brain damage more than a decade ago and died last March after her feeding tube was removed.
Michael Schiavo had argued his wife was in a vegetative state, and would not want to be kept alive artificially.
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The newlyweds first met in a dentist's office and began a relationship after Terri Schiavo was already in a nursing home. They have two young children.
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Now, I can ask, 'And what was in it for Michael'?
That's your starting premise, not mine.
It would have been much easier for Michael to have walked away in 1994 with his $300K and his new girlfriend. Much easier.
That adds to my argument that in order for him to have stayed and stuck it out for as many years as he did there had to be a reason. A woman like Jodi would not put up with being with MS if his only reason was for his love of Terri.
Like all the other Terri-bots on this thread, you've got nothing but rumor, gossip, innuendo, character assassination, speculation, "unanswered questions", conspiracies -- everything but FACTS.
Don't pat yourself to hard on the back - since your entire premise is based on your belief in a man who cheated on his wife.
I told you to learn English, and also to learn reading. My self-interest includes the benefit of my sister, my wife, my kid and my parents, except in special cases in which one of those persons comes into conflict with me, or for example if I happen to hate my sister (as is not the case in the Sciavo family).
It's for precisely that reason that employment applications request references "not related to the applicant." It's so well-known that individuals' self-interest embraces their family circle, that it's standard boiler-plate on legal documents of that sort. You can't possibly be ignorant of this phenomenon--or can you? Which is it? Are you being ignorant or dishonest here?
Now, I can ask, 'And what was in it for Michael'?
That's so easy to answer that I'm embarrassed to have to explain it to you. He asked a judge to withhold all nourishment from Terri Schiavo, until she should breathe her last. Having asked for this to be done, he has proven one thing conclusively: it was his wish that the thing be done. What's "in it for Michael Schiavo," is that the thing he wished to be done would in fact be done.
In other words, a plaintiff will testify in such a way as to increase the likelihood of his prevailing in court. That's called "self-interest". Again, are you honestly ignorant of this, or are you simply dishonest?
What is that old coot Greer doing these days?
I have often hoped he would take a long walk off a short pier, right into a family of Florida's best and hungriest alligators.
In my opinion he did it because he wanted the rest of the money. $300.000 wasn't enough for him. He wanted it all. As the years went by the money got spent on legal fees, but he was too far along to retreat, without looking like a fool and a liar.
That is a terrific post!
Baloney. She would drown.
"Second, supposing she could not swallow at all, as you appear to be trying to imply falsely,"
"Supposing"? "Appear"? "To be trying"? "To imply"? You got enough modifiers in there to accuse me of anything.
Where did I do that? I've stated as a fact numerous times on this thread that she could swallow. Just not voluntarily.
"and also falsely suggest that she is incapable of receiving nourishment PO."
She was incapable of receiving nourishment PO. Geez Louise.
"there is still a benefit to the exercise:"
Yeah, there's a benefit all right. All you Terri-bots could then say, "If the doctors said she couldn't swallow, then why did they test her again? And if they questioned her ability to swallow, then why didn't they question their other assertions? Terri needs more tests. And more tests. And more tests."
And the autopsy is suspect. Let's exhume the body! Oh wait, you can't do that, can you? But I bet you'd try if she wasn't cremated, wouldn't you?
There seems to be no end of subjects on which you are extremely dogmatic, but appear to know nothing. I've fed plenty of comatose patients before. I'm sure that's incomprehensible to you, whose knowledge of comatose patients is based on watching television.
Your ignorance might be thrown in bold relief if you carefully consider the question: Why didn't she drown on her own saliva?
"Supposing"? "Appear"? "To be trying"? "To imply"? You got enough modifiers in there to accuse me of anything.
Let me simplify for you. "Can't swallow voluntarily" is very different from "can't swallow," but I'm not sure whether you realize that. If you don't realize it, you're ignorant--which is certainly a credible possibility. If you do realize it, then you're being dishonest.
Terri needs more tests. And more tests. And more tests.
What sort of idiot are you? If there's no feeding tube, and she can't swallow at all, as you claim, then she'll die within weeks. That doesn't leave much scope for "tests and more tests."
A woman like Jodi? What kind of woman is that? What are you saying here?
Perhaps a "woman like Jodi" is the kind of woman who respects a man trying to honor his wife's wish.
"since your entire premise is based on your belief in a man who cheated on his wife."
What's my premise? Do you even know? Michael Schiavo could eat babies and it wouldn't affect my premise one iota.
Why in hell do you think she was cremated so soon, Robert?
You're so full of it. The truth is that Scott Schiavo and Joan Schiavo were not acting in a self-serving manner. There was nothing in it for them, personally, to testify the way they did. Hell, Michael wouldn't have even known about their "pull the plug" conversations with Terri unless they told him, which they didn't have to do.
"What's "in it for Michael Schiavo," is that the thing he wished to be done would in fact be done."
Huh? Did I just fall down the rabbit hole? What kind of statement is that?
That's it? That's your explanation for Michael's actions? That the reason he did this was to do this?
I'm speechless. I truly am.
So far you have offered essentially no arguments. Which makes sense, because you don't know the difference between a fact and an opinion, or someone's claims and the incontrovertible truth. So naturally, you have no power to do more than state (what you believe to be) the facts. You don't seem to grasp that your statements need to be supported, let alone have the ablity to provide that support.
Huh? Did I just fall down the rabbit hole? What kind of statement is that?
"What's in it for him" is that he wins his lawsuit. What kind of moron are you? Honestly.
I'm speechless. I truly am.
No, you aren't. The brainless are never speechless, more's the pity.
One who would not put up with a man refusing to marry her because he was bound to another woman.
Perhaps a "woman like Jodi" is the kind of woman who respects a man trying to honor his wife's wish.
Sorry that just does not pan out, especially when she has little kids to think about. One would have to presume that Michael and Jodi both placed Terri's wishes above their own and their children's. They must have angel status in your book.
What's my premise? Do you even know? Michael Schiavo could eat babies and it wouldn't affect my premise one iota.
Well, from what I have read of your posts you believe MS and support the premise that he loved Terri and wanted to carry out her wishes.
By the way I am really curious to know when do you think Terri told MS that she wanted him to treat her family like crap? For sure that must have been one of her wishes as well.
On the contrary. Michael put in writing that he would give it all to charity if the Schidlers would stop fighting him in court and allow Terri to die.
What makes you say that he wanted it all? What did he say or do to make you believe that? Anything? Or is this just more speculation and gossip?
Oh yes - the famous - "I will give all the money to charity if only you let me kill her" crap. Too bad people like you are so easily fooled by such publicity tactics. That was nothing more than PR since he knew full well that Terri's parent would never go along with it. Let that one rest, it's not a substantial point.
What makes you say that he wanted it all? What did he say or do to make you believe that? Anything? Or is this just more speculation and gossip?
If I recall you asked me what was my opinion, and that is what I gave you. I already said it matters not the reason why he did what he did - it only matters that he did NOT do it for Terri. Therefore any reason he had for doing what he did were self serving and not acceptable.
does that count the money that will come in from the books and movies? im sorry but there is no way on earth i am going to believe george felos and michael have any kindness in their hearts. i think they're ghouls. terri is dead now and i hope nobody has to go thru what she did. michael could have allowed her parents to bury her. michael made himself look bad by being so mean. i dont mean to start with you i am just stating my opinion. nobody but terri and michael will ever know what the real truth about her wishes were. i would hope my loving husband would find a better way to end my life then letting me dehydrate and starve. matter of fact i know if he had to go to jail for life by ending my life painlessly he would. i dont believe for 1 minute she died painlessly. and i still say they are ghouls.
Because she swallowed it. Involuntarily. But if you poured water into her mouth it would go right into her lungs. She would drown because she couldn't voluntarily swallow.
"I've fed plenty of comatose patients befor."
For 15 years? And the relevance to a PVS patient being what? And the relevance to Terri being what?
You see, Terri couldn't voluntarily swallow. Did I mention that?
Very good. Very good. Have a biscuit.
But if you poured water into her mouth it would go right into her lungs.
Feeding a comatose patient doesn't involve pouring water down their throat. No biscuit for you after all.
For 15 years? And the relevance to a PVS patient being what? And the relevance to Terri being what?
A patient who can swallow his own saliva can also swallow nourishment. That's not subject for debate or discussion; rather, it is one of those easily-checked things we call "facts". This does not guarantee the patient's survival, however. Different patients pose different degrees of choking risk, and survival depends not only on swallowing, but on swallowing enough calories to sustain life.
The relevance, however, is that your assertion that she can't swallow at all is beyond stupid. On the other hand, you wouldn't be able to cling to your opinions so tenatiously if you weren't equipped with invincible ignorance, so I guess you have something to be grateful for. Certainty feels good, no matter what silly thing you feel so certain about.
You see, Terri couldn't voluntarily swallow. Did I mention that?
You appear to think there's a difference between swallowing saliva, and swallowing other substances of comparable viscosity when placed in the mouth. Your ignorance is impressive; I haven't seen its like in some time, and that IS saying something.
And Michael cheating on his wife, or robbing a bank, or eating babies for breakfast affects that premise how?
"By the way I am really curious to know when do you think Terri told MS that she wanted him to treat her family like crap? For sure that must have been one of her wishes as well."
Actually, Michael and her family got along quite well. Until they insisted on half of his $300K loss of consortium award and he refused. Then they started treating Michael like crap.
Was that Terri's wish? Did she tell her parents to make Michael's life miserable by constantly taking him to court?
So his wife could rest in peace. Finally.
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