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...without Mary there would be no Christ. In a way, yes. For Mary became a mother freely. Without Mary there would have been no Jesus Christ as known to us from Scripture. But the closer analogy is that without the Jewish people there would have been no Jesus Christ. Stressing the uniquenesss of Israel --and Mary--stressed the uniqueness of Jesus. He could not have been born into any other nation to any other woman. I say this knowing that God could have chosen another way, but he chose this one, with the participation of Mary.

97 posted on 12/27/2005 11:48:29 PM MST by RobbyS

What a perverse misunderstanding of G-d, King and creator of the universe.

YHvH did not need the person, named Mirium, in order to provide salvation to His creation.

If you acquaint yourself with the Tanach you will see that YHvH is our salvation Psalm 118-14.

YHvH only needed a virgin( any virgin who had no brothers) of the house of David engaged to a man( any man) also of the house of David.

This would be enough to fulfill phrosephy and provide the Messiah with the title deed to the throne of King David.

b'shem Y'shua

157 posted on 12/28/2005 9:40:06 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in the LORD for ever, for the LORD, the LORD, is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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fulfill prophesy

Sorry.
finger check fixed.

164 posted on 12/28/2005 10:16:47 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in the LORD for ever, for the LORD, the LORD, is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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