"Where did all the stuff that we see come from unless from an intelligent designer who created the very stuff with which to design?"
ID doesn't attempt to explain the origin of matter. You are making the mistake of thinking that ID includes everything that Gensis does.
"Don't quite understand your analogy. Are you saying that the configuration involves a designer but that designer is not divine? Please explain."
I'm saying that a highly complex system is more likely to exist because of deliberate action by an intelligent being than by chance. Complexity implies a creator, but it doesn't have to be a divine being. I could place dice like that if I wanted to (and if I knew your name).
ID takes as a hypothesis that there is a designer, but it doesn't require the designer to be divine, or to have created matter from nothing, or to have done it as outlined by the teachings of any religion.
"I'm saying that a highly complex system is more likely to exist because of deliberate action by an intelligent being than by chance."
Not really. Consider a dodecahedral crystal of garnet. It's quite complex, yet, it will form itself with no assistance from any deity. And that is only one of many possible forms a garnet crystal can take. Many other minerals can form in up to hundreds of different morphologies, again, without the influence of anything other than temperature and surrounding minerals in the solution.
We won't even discuss more complex crystals that occur in nature. You might look at the multiply-twinned crystals of water you find in snowflakes. They are so complex that it is very unlikely any two will be alike.
Now, Those are a simple chemical compounds, so imagine what might occur with something as complex as DNA. You're grasping at straws here, and your arguments are easily refuted.
"ID doesn't attempt to explain the origin of matter. You are making the mistake of thinking that ID includes everything that Gensis does."
Maybe I am missing what others think ID is. Can there be Intelligent design without a divine being to design it? I have trouble wrapping my brain around that argument.
"I'm saying that a highly complex system is more likely to exist because of deliberate action by an intelligent being than by chance. Complexity implies a creator, but it doesn't have to be a divine being. I could place dice like that if I wanted to (and if I knew your name)."
"so are you saying there is an intelligent being but not a divine intelligent being?
"ID takes as a hypothesis that there is a designer, but it doesn't require the designer to be divine, or to have created matter from nothing, or to have done it as outlined by the teachings of any religion."
Still can't wrap my brain around the fact that people can believe there is a Designer who created everything yet is not divine. Separate religion or God from it and only use logic and I can't logically see how a non-divine being designed everything but did not create everything. Maybe someone can help me with a logical coherent explanation. Thanks