[unlearner]

"[Empty space] seems pretty nothing-like to me."

Do you think space exists outside of the universe? Do you think the universe is bounded?

"Well, I guess we're even, because I think you haven't bothered to find a basic tutorial on quantum physics, as I suggested, and are simply continuing a bluff."

Show me a basic tutorial (that is written by someone knowledgeable) or an advanced text, which supports your claim of "something from nothing."

[donh]

Show me a basic tutorial (that is written by someone knowledgeable) or an advanced text, which supports your claim of "something from nothing."

They all do. If you want an experimental demonstration, look up the casimir effect. According to Hawkings, you can detect an event horizon because of the capacity of empty space to spontaneously produce particles and their anti-particles from nothing (which,incidently, is why energy is still conserved). Is that authoratative enough for you?

[donh]

Do you think space exists outside of the universe? Do you think the universe is bounded?

How many voids can fit in vacuum? Why is there stuff? The world is chock full of of wonderful questions. Nonetheless, a piece of space with nothing in it is still a reasonable approximation of nothing.